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'There’s a lot that could be said in response to this drivel, the product of a truly mediocre mind, which is ever toying with incoherent metaphors and rejoicing in semantic victories.'

That's a line I'll remember.

The denial of natural immunity to me is the most obvious flaw with the push for universal vaccination. When Dr. Gupta keeps pressing Rogan to get vaccinated even though he's probably got better immunity than him, it gets creepy. Like drug dealer pushing drugs creepy.

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That is a really good analogy - drug dealers. And that is what most governments are. They have so much invested in the medical world they want everyone to be a subject

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I don't think it is is analogy, I believe big pharma is actually pushing their clot shots upon politicians so they force it upon the serfs.

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Pharmaceuticals in alliances with major government institutions like the WHO and NIH and powerful private money interests like the BMGF are the Cartels. The medical and allopathic health associations, NGO,s agencies, organizations etc. with he aid of pharma lobbyists are the Capos who then distribute the drugs bringing them to market and command the foot soldiers - physicians, paediatricians, dopes on TV, media etc. - to sell it to consumers. It's a money (laundering) and racketeering scheme.

Remember Nancy Reagan? Don't do drugs.

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How about practicing medicine without a license?

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That is what politicians around the world are now actually doing

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And then Gupta went on Sesame Street afterward to seduce children into the shot. Very creepy and wrong.

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I'm not for using the word 'seduce' there. If infection was actually dangerous and vaccines were the answer, messages to calm kids down could make sense. though I think McCullough had a strong point that informed consent demands messaging around it. But the point is I don't want to vilify what would be a reasonable action if the circumstances were as the thought they were.

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This is a disgusting response to a disgusting act given that kids are at 1 in a million risk of Covid. So there were a million other ways for Gupta to allay kids fears than coercing them to be injected with an experiment poison that offers them nothing but harm.

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This attempt to persuade could be seen as reasonable in 2020, not with children but parents. The vaccine now has no clothes.

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"The denial of natural immunity"

When the vaccines were released, it was the denial of the usefulness of natural immunity that started me down the skepticism road.

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Dec 31, 2021·edited Dec 31, 2021

there's robust, long-lasting immunity after recovering from (mild) cov-19 and thus no need for mRNA inoculation -

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34030176/

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/if-youve-had-covid-youre-likely-protected-for-life_4169013.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink

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That's just nonsense, what Drosten said. He's comparing an apple to a rock. The immune system LITERALLY has to be trained. It's why kids get sick constantly, then stop getting sick constantly.

It's why doctors tell parents not to shield their children from germs, but to allow them exposure to them BECAUSE it trains their immune system to learn how to fight things off.

The immune system is literally designed to LEARN. That's why an infection generally takes the same time to fight off because the body takes a few days to LEARN how to defeat a bacteria or virus, then fights it off and then you get better.

What a load of horse crap.

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Is it just me? Or is it incredibly disturbing that someone in Germany is advocating required vaccinations while wearing a military uniform? Jeeze, talk about optics!

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Not just you. Especially using the word word “control” - not of the virus, but of people.

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I beg to differ this is not a load of horse crap. There is not a shovel in the world large enough to muck out the stable of this man's mind. Besides, horse crap can be rather useful. Ask any rose bush.

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They say he's a virologist. His statements indicate he's either not a very good virologist, or is purposely misleading his readers. We see a lot of credentialed people spouting nonsense these days, all gratefully lapped up by ignorant media and their legions of followers. Our Supreme Leader, Saint Anthony notable among them. It's unlikely they're all incompetent. It's really important that we discover and reveal the real purpose of their misdirection. Old media won't. They're no longer journalists, just propagandists. In the US, it's driven by agents of the executive branch of federal government and some states. They're too corrupted to self correct, so it would normally fall to the legislature to investigate and reveal the corruption. But the legislatures are controlled by the same corrupt forces as the executive. Enough information might be made public by the few remaining honest journalists to shame the legislature to act, but we'll probably need to wait for the November elections to begin restoring sanity. Perhaps the leadership of the US that got the world into this mess will become more widely recognized as corrupt and other countries will take the lead to restore sanity to the world, eventually forcing the feckless Americans to follow. Well recover eventually.

The next step will be to determine where we went wrong, and make corrections tons to ensure it never happens again. Better education of the populations everywhere is the best insurance against the mass hysteria that fueled this disaster

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One possible silver lining in all of this is that a lot of people are getting red-pilled.

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True. But not enough.

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And make the perpetuators pay. Without this, we're doomed to repeat this. Fauci - and all his equivalents in the West - has to be made an example of.

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What went wrong is allowing financial conflicts of interest into institutions that allegedly exist for the public good. And forgetting that virtually the entire medical profession is also a for-profit industry. I don’t know what the solution is exactly but as long as there’s a profit motive behind government policies and health care, abuse like this should be expected.

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However the immune system works, it was created to see you through life however long that may be. Without it, man would have become extinct rather quickly.

If it is somehow compromised to some degree it is because you have abused it with drugs, vaccines and mRNA injections.

You can include the lack of necessary vitamins and minerals, poor environmental conditions, smoking and alcohol use.

The immune system is beyond complicated and pharmacology will never replace or improve it.

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Nature will always have the last say

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BayerMonsanto=PfizerModerna

Both attack the human immune system and the natural biological world, seek to build a weak and dependent population to enrich and empower themselves.

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You sound like you know functional medicine my friend.

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I just had a quick thought. What if the "food pyramid" that we in the U.S. have been told is the essential guide to dietary health has actually been a major factor in weakened immunity because of its emphasis on carbohydrates? I ask this because my understanding is that inflammation weakens our immune system. I could be way off base of course.

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I am sure that big pharma has input on the food pyramid. They do not want healthy people when they can be sick and become life long drug customers.

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Maybe, but I always thought that bit of corruption was in service of Big Agriculture

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The food pyramid is old, I think it's a plate now.

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Possibly the best definition I have read.

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Amen.

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Dec 30, 2021·edited Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

This is beyond bizarre. I don't even know how to express my disbelief any more. It is an assault on our collective human bodily integrity. On the very thing that makes us biological beings. What is next? We never knew how to fall asleep before sleeping pills? Hearts never knew how to beat before pace-makers? Smiles didn't exist before serotonin reuptake inhibitors?

We have entered the realm of Frankenstein.

Plus, if anyone didn't believe before that they are trying to eliminate the control group, start believing now.

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

The real shock is how readily the Germans accept these monumental societal changes. Within three months, Germany has become a de facto apartheid state with no access to anything but pharmacies and supermarkets for dissidents who have taken article 2(2) of the Basic Law that "Everyone has the right to life and physical integrity." at face value. I don't know how a government can ever walk that back.

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Most western countries have some form of this discrimination, though only two (Italy and Austria) appear worse than Germany at the moment.

All governments have been repeatedly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory (over the virus) for months now. They don't want to hand back emergency powers. Ever. The people will have to put a stop to this somehow, and it is actually surprising to see that even Germans are now realising this.

The starting point should be 20 year prison sentences and confiscation of all assets to compensate society, for every MP who ever voted for any restriction of individual liberty, and 10 years (plus confiscation of all assets) for every bureaucrat and policeman who ever enforced any restriction of individual liberty. I would be prepared to consider a lighter sentence for those who went along only with the first few weeks of restrictions and stopped thereafter.

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Dec 30, 2021·edited Dec 30, 2021

Most of all, I would like to see pharma brought to justice - all profits seized, and operations only permitted to continue with strict external and ethical oversight, with the profits ring-fenced for the compensation of vaccine-related injuries and development of ethically developed medicine (if that's possible) to alleviate these. Preferably, though, in the realm of health- and wellness-centred research.

And, of course, for those who messed this up so badly, and who then perpetuated it so criminally, that they are brought to justice and tried and convicted for their crimes.

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Sadly, the vax believers have walled themselves off from all of the objective harm, and fully embraced the lies.

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We need a sentencing structure for media outlets/"personalities" who promoted this as well.

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I'm hoping, for the sake of the Germans, that when it settles down into endemicity (pray, soon, which we all hope is what omicron signals), that they will drop it - even if petulantly, just so they feel they can save face. Much like Biden seems to have started doing with his "I'm washing my hands of you, it's now at a federal level" approach.

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As the saying goes, "those that don't know history are bound to repeat it."

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Dec 30, 2021·edited Dec 30, 2021

Why is it surprising? Any german living today is trained from birth to have a pavlovian response to any naziesque-imagery and react negatively towards it.

While that may sound okay at first glance, or look right the first time you hear it (apparently I've been infected with Drostenism, mixing metaphors like that), what it means in effect is that as long as you don't use that imagery or certain key words or terms?

You can then enforce the same basics, not only in policy but in your underlying value system, ethics, ontological understanding of reality and so on. This of course works for any religious, political or ethical system: change the words and our perception of reality changes.

You're not "getting the sack", your employer is "providing the labour market with valuable competence, skills and and experience" and "offering you greater opportunity for personal growth".

You aren't being sent to Gulag for non-vaccinated: you are being relocated to a health and security clinic for observation and study, where your personal contribution to science is greatly appreciated.

Abortion is not killing a viable fetus: it's a woman's right.

Bombing civilians is collateral damage.

War is peace.

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Memetic OAS: as long as your tyranny doesn't superficially resemble the kinds the west has been inoculated against, it can spread nearly unhindered.

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Is it all of a piece with what they did for the Austrian? Is it just the way they are?

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

Wow, you Krauts are obsessive about those FFP2 masks. What a circus taking them off and putting them on in that press conference, as if it makes any difference. I had the misfortune of flying Lufthansa and connecting in MUC where seemingly the corona-insanity is worse than the rest of the country. I flew Swiss and Turkish on the same itinerary where there was no problem taking the mask off for most of the journey and very civilized. On LH we had to suffer Ilse the Shewolf of the SS as the chef de cabin . The absurdity of the situation was compounded by the fact that my family was alone in a mini-cabin in business class. Good idea to alienate your very few remaining premium passengers. I think that I am going to stay away from LH and Germany for the next decade or so! Memories of the 3rd Reich and DDR.....

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yes, Bavaria under Söder, and Munich especially (I imagine this extends to the airport, though I haven't flown since this started) must be some of the worst places in the northern hemisphere right now, as far as containment.

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This was actually 3 months ago so it must be a lot worse now. They were obsessing about the US as a high risk country so the maximum precautions must be taken! One more sympathetic crew member (who was Italian and I saw maskless on two occasions in the galley) explained to me that their iron fist behavior was due to the fear that other passengers might complain, even though we were alone in the cabin. My crime was that I was too slow in eating my dinner! I guess snitching is important in totalitarian societies.... I was told that I would be arrested in MUC if I did not stop eating my meal immediately. Unbelievable.

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That is really something! Wow. I have not flown with any German carriers or via Germany at any point. My experience on easyJet, Ryanair, BA, Vueling etc. is that it depends on the cabin crew and manager. One one flight the announcements were regular and we kept being told that the mask must cover our nose. On another flight, I saw the crew pulling their masks down while chatting in the galley and they didn't appear to care that I kept my mask off the whole time while taking occasional sips of water.

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Yes, that seems reasonable. I was particularly unlucky. It's not fun when it is an 11 hour flight. In Sweden they actually no longer require masks for domestic and were about to get rid of them within Scandinavia but Denmark did not want to play ball. Unfortunately, Sweden has a new female director general of the public health agency and I don't want to sound misogynistic but the data show (Jacinda!) that it is bad news and Sweden also has a new female PM . I did not realize that Tegnell is/was not the boss but the chief epidemiologist or something like that. There was an older geezer who was happy collecting his fat paycheck and just let Tegnell run the show, but he retired in the fall. This woman seems to be keen on corona passes even and is also keen on masks.

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

Is there any study showing that FP2 masks do anything that surgical masks (or even no mask) don't?

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

Bayern had a FFP2 mandate for months in early 2021 (and probably again now). The case curves are identical to the rest of Germany and of course worse than Sweden where nobody wears masks. Austria also has had FFP2 mandates, I think, maybe in certain regions, and is doing quite horribly overall. Note the recent article on Swiss Policy Research comparing Sweden and Austria. The most comical is the FFP2 type mask that makes you look like Donald Duck.......

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yes, we're back in ffp2s. when the policy was introduced in January 2021, Bavaria hilariously went from having dead-average case counts, to being slightly worse than average. over the summer we were allowed to wear surgical masks, but ffp2 came back when cases started to rise. it's really stupid.

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I stream Berlin Philharmonic concerts weekly at home in the U.S. While the orchestra performs unmasked, the audience all wears FFP2s. Very creepy. They look like plague masks. I would assume Stadt Berlin's health regulations are similar to Bavaria's. Of course, accomplishing nothing but obedience.

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The advantage is that, outside of Bavaria, I can always identify the true morons immediately. Unfortunately, a number of my German colleagues are aspiring ducks (who even lock themselves in their own offices with their masks on). Sigh.

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They are useful in medical settings, especially since their proper use requires training.

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Italy is getting there.

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yep and spain etc to follow

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I was in Portugal about a month ago and it got pretty bad there very quickly. I couldn't check into a hotel anymore without a test -- Italy went a step further: you need "superpass" (vaccine or recovered) for a hotel / bus / local bus and mandatory masks outdoors!

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a friend of mine flew into MUC a few weeks ago. i picked him up. half the airport was cordoned off and it was a ghost town

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

FP2 Masks appear to be now mandatory also in supermarkets in all of Germany, simple surgical masks are not good anymore. Weirdly, cashiers and security staff still use surgical masks or no masks. I guess they are immune, or they just prefer to breath while working. https://contrarium.substack.com/p/a-pandemic-of-bureaucracy

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Checkout staff are protected by perspex screens which prevent infection and harmful radiation from the internets.

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Not enough people are talking about harmful internets radiation (HIR). The Plexiglas screens must be rubbed with crystals and CBD to be truly protective.

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Here in Hessen, surgical masks are still allowed. All through the pandemic, Hessen always seems to have been a little more relaxed than the surrounding Bundesländer. Bouffier the virus slayer seems to have less of an authoritarian strain.

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I noticed during my short duration in MUC (thankfully) that the lounge attendants did not have to wear masks because they sat behind plexiglass, although all but one still wore them. So there must be some rule like that for employees. Well, at that point in late Sep there was no FFP2 mandate in Bayern, I believe. On my 11 hour flight the crazy chef de cabin wore a FFP2; there should be a study on oxygen deprivation inducing totalitarian behavior. Although I assume she did not wear it in the crew rest area.....

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I have always had the feeling that the reunification of Germany in October 1991 was in fact a successful reverse takeover by the DDR.

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

Another great article. As Dennis mentioned, what a great line to be found in "...ever toying with incoherent metaphors and rejoicing in semantic victories." The left uses incoherent, nonsensical language to facilitate and mask their denial of reality. They generally have a three part playbook with regard to most issues: deny reality, make stuff up, and smear their enemies. In place of actual results in reality they substitute a fantasy world of word salad. Going hand-in-hand with this, the people who comprise their ranks are generally pseudo-intellectuals, who think that repeating some catch phrase is synonymous with actual intelligence.

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To be fair, the right does this too. I think it's a problem of simple minds or overt malicious intent. If someone is in a position of power, it's likely malicious intent but if they're an everyday Joe, it's just being a simpleton.

That's why both parties create these stupid, nonsense 'catchphrases' that sound great but have no meaning whatsoever. BOTH sides do this - it's just that you happen to agree with one and not the other that makes the other feel 'smart' and the other to seem 'incoherent', despite them both being equally nonsensical.

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e.g. Diversity is our strength!

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If diversity is their strength why do they demand unity at any cost?

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pssst..It's not really diversity.

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"... deny reality, make stuff up, and smear their enemies. " I see you've met the Pope.

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Drosten may be surprised to find out that for the majority of human history there were no vaccines and yet there was some system of immunity that provided protection against infection.

He needs to go eat a nice steak and refrain from damaging the society around him any further.

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This is right out of the "Angel of deaths" playbook and I don't mean Josef Mengele but Anthony Fauci. Fauci is now responsible for over 500,000 deaths in the U.S. by denying proven therapeutics and pushing a vaccine that does not work. This was the same game plan he used starting in the 1980's up till the present to push for an HIV vaccine as well. Bill Gates is also guilty along with Fauci for torturing thousands of minorities throughout the world to profit off of big pharmas push to use unproven vaccines.

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WHO and the rest of the world have followed US lead, so fauch is actually responsible for millions of deaths globally.

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I have taken to calling Fauci Dr. Faucistein. He also has a screw loose and he won't stop until he has created the monster.

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Here is another possibility. I know it would sound like a wild conspiracy theory, but it fits the facts: Drosten finally realized that laughter is the best medicine.

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It's bizzare to keep an eye on international news now that Omicron is shredding the central unified narrative of covid.

Now that entire nations are splitting off to make their own way through (the only way out is through) virus waves the so called thought-leaders are grasping at straws to justify their stranglehold on people.

You can see people pouring over Omicron data to possibly find a way to keep being afraid of it, clinging to the scant few delta hospitalizations.

It will be very interesting to see how long the vaxx passes last when it's moved into the subscription model. For a cold.

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Yes, as you pointed out, Drosten in effect said that the vaccine cannot train the immune system.

Call him an opportunist, mediocre, pretentious - but stupid he is not.

He knew what he is saying, and he also knows that anyone with some understanding of immunology knows that he is blatantly lying.

He is knowingly lying to the citizens of Germany, who trust him with their health.

As a scientist, one of the achievements is to have status among other scientists. It is remarkable to see how he throws away his scientific reputation.

There is no coming back from that. Either his side wins, and he stays in power and position. Or his side loses, and the scientific community shaves his head and he has to walk through the streets chanting "shame, shame, shame".

An anecdote: I studied chemistry and had to do literature research with old journals. I stumbled unto a very prolific researcher, one Elena Ceaușescu.

She was one of the most cited chemist for a while, since every Romanian chemist had to cite her as co-author.

The fall from grace for that renowned scientist was quick and deep.

Not that I whish Drosten the same fate - but, I kinda do.

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

Any hope he could be sued for misleading medical information ?

I believe an example must be made to expose these fanatics for what they are.

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They made something similar already in 2009 with the swine flu, the same Drosten had the same role. And they were not sued.

The impact now of course is much bigger. But even so, I doubt he will ever sued.

In the pas year I had the impression Drosten tried to be a bit more silent and retreat, so that he is not that fall guy later.

And while he is quite explicitly on these tweets: this is just twitter. It seems to me he is not that much in public anymore. (This is just my impression, though)

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Thanks for the valuable insight.

I know of course it is just twitter, but a lawsuit, even if it is lost will make perfectly clear that this is just an unsubstantiated opinion. Or else, the lawsuit will be won for misleading the public. I believe checkmate is in sight here.

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I do not feel that optimistic.

Here in Germany the courts have sold out and are in the hands (and probably pocket) of the government, who is clearly not interested in the wellbeing of the people or democracy.

In the last few years I gained the impression that our current times are not about right or wrong, but just about power. And the power is in the hand of political bureaucracy and global corporations. It is hard for me to see a scenario where this shifts quickly. (It may evolve over the nest decades to a better place, or to a worse.)

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Reiner Fuellmich seems to have written German courts off, and if anyone, he will have good reasons for that.

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We had Siouxsie Wiles as our Drosten. Of late she seems to have taken a bit of a back seat while and idiot called Michael Baker fronts up. I want both of them to get some SE European justice.

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Dec 30, 2021·edited Dec 30, 2021

Those two seem to be the usual stupid people who for their very ignorance get promoted. Pink hair and the spelling of her first name* is probably her most distinguished features.

With Drosten it is a bit difference: he is world wide known and he created the PCR test the whole world relies upon. He is a real scientist.

Or at least he was put into that position many years ago, and build up as a real scientist. Much as Fauci.

* Siouxsie and the Banshees was a great band

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Well as I understand it Drosten's thesis/dissertation is challenged.

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I dunno what happened to Elena Ceaușescu... But maybe we could use that as an example.

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Dec 30, 2021·edited Dec 30, 2021

Read up on here. You even see her final moments on youtube.

https://youtu.be/XkZZWcecGik?t=327

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Ahh that Elena. I must have forgotten...

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This guy is a ***** retard.. god i hate living in Bavaria now...

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

What I continue to find astonishing is that by claiming that naturally acquired immunity is weak or ineffective - or simply failing to mention it, the PTB have also tricked the many millions of people who have "survived" COVID infection into believing they still need the vaccines and still need to "protect" themselves with masks etc. In fact this huge cohort of immune people should have immediately returned to work without the need for protective gear or restrictions. But if they'd explained this, then who would have thought vaccination was necessary?

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What I find most disturbing about Drosten's tweets is the number of "Likes".

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well, the pandemic has made him one of the most prominent public figures in germany

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And #1in attorney Reiner Fuellmich's crosshairs, for all Drosten's corruption and deception.

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Ah, I see. Yes, we have many of these unelected health technocrats here in Canada too. The "TV Doctors."

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Far out how can people like that keep their jobs. Unbelievable.

Secretory IgA from infection >> plasma IgA from vaccine.

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what about IgA?? immuno gobulin A??

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Not sure I understand the question. IgA is either located in the mucosal layer (secretory) or plasma (blood).

Vaccination does not reliably affect secretory IgA which is the essential immunological ingredient to preventing infection, along with the innate immune system of antiviral proteins, macrophages, neutrophils, etc.

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was just wondering why you wrote IgA as someone who suffered from IgA nephropathy i need to be careful raising my IgA levels in case it starts again. so if i get corona i probably should gonon cortisone for a few months after it

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Terrain theory is falsifiable but nobody has tried to. That tells me all I need to know about it.

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Dec 30, 2021Liked by eugyppius

Do you think if coronavirus spread through the Bundestag they might all have to quarantine and leave us alone for a few weeks?

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No way. Basically, Bundestag statutes require 1/4 attendance. Most of the time, in practice, it's not much more than that. We voters pay them anyway.

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