And I always thought Bill is dedicated to eugenics not saving lives.Is all the live saving propaganda in his book just sanctimonious pretending on steroids .? He knows nothing about medicine and is not a doctor or virus scientist .If he wants to do some good he can give his money to the injured his injections of the venom is causing and shut down the labs of death producing brews ,he is so much involved in .
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I think it is quite simple. In the olden days, high-functioning autistics were the eccentric men and women who were the staples of British fiction. Their obsessions couldn't reach very far, generally, and couldn't be spread globally at the click of readily-available electronic devices.
Now we celebrate the "neurodiverse," or they force us to do so, and we've demonized the word and concept "normal" because it's mean to suggest that certain ways of thinking, though they underpin a great deal of creativity, are nevertheless very bad for the overall health of society.
Gates is a typically obsessive Asperger's type. With too much money. That's it.
And for anyone distressed by the generality of my comment here: I have very dear friends with now adult kids with disabling autism and their suffering is always with me. It's nothing to celebrate. Even hgh-functioning people on the spectrum are vulnerable to exploitation and deal painfully with the challenges of forming relationships. Miswiring has high costs.
Exactly what I was going to post. Know someone who socialized with Gates in Seattle. The two couples would go to Mariners games. Melinda had to count out money for Gates. He is soooooo on the spectrum. Here is my add on, Gates isn’t the only billionaire on the spectrum. They have no empathy for others. So, it’s very easy for them to accept that the world population needs to be reduced by 7 billion in order to save the planet without emotional angst.
According to RFK Jr. autism has increased in the last 50 years from 1/10,000 to 1/50 so there is a Greek tragedy aspect to Gate's obsession with vaccines.
I wonder if in a significant number of instances it's become a boutique diagnosis for a number of reasons, including insurance coverage and disability services. Some people claiming to be autistic are more likely to have personality disorders with less sympathetic labels.
Well, to qualify that I would say that 50 years ago understanding of autism was minimal and only the people with the most severe displaying symptoms were "picked up" and there was no recognition that girls could be autistic. I was dx at 45 yrs of age. During that 50 years its been discovered that it's an inherited condition, not exclusive to men, that we can mask our difficulties especially women. Has nothing to do with vaccines.
Not so sure. There are now 72 vaccines recommended/required for kids before the age of 18. This is my lived anecdotal experience: My grandson has autism. In my swimming group, there are four grandchildren with autism. In my tennis group, there are three. In my golf group, one friend has a niece whose three children all have severe autism. None of these friends have children with autism, only grandchildren. Watch "1986: The Act" and see Pharma and the regulatory agencies acknowledge autism as a side effect of vaccines.
Yes! Thank you! As a simple observation after 45 years of teaching swimming to all ages, predominately children from age 4 - 12...I did not see, observe or deal with autistic symptoms in my classes & individual students (even lifeguards) I taught & trained until into the 1990’s. Many of the parents had been referred to me to take their child (predominately boys) to teach privately. Several believed their child had developed the autism after a childhood vaxxx, but were scoffed at, ignored, etc. It infuriates me that the scientific & especially the medical community is so abysmally controlled by the Biggg Pharmasss “quackcene” INDUSTRY that any discussion of a connection is absolutely quashed.
Another individual with a theory that may be worth investigating is MIT scientist (among other things) Dr Stephanie Seneff, who has written & explored the toxicity of glyphosate in the environment & a contributing factor. She has very interesting information. It may well be the toxicity of our soils, air, water & bodily injections of very poorly tested inoculations that causes a seemingly irreversible toxic overload with resulting cases on the autism spectrum.
When talking with our farming friends, they become verrry aggravated that we would dare to question the wonderful usage of glyphosate. I see similar responses from our Dr friends over the years - they absolutely love this abominable vaxxxcene schedule.
Nursing friends are quite different - 7 out of our 8 nursing friends are opposed to the vaxxxcenes (all of them) & have been for years.) They see the autism connection & diet. They applaud Drs who are waking up. We have all seen the Drs ostracized & threatened with their livelihood who simply question the heavy usage of vaxxes. Dr Wakefield’s story early on ....Dr Daniel Neides formerly of the famed Cleveland Clinic (I would no longer take my dog there to that lab rat clinic). My two Applied Kinesiologists (over 45 yrs each in their respective practice) are adamantly opposed to all vaxxxcenes) When my atty husband & I viewed the documentary, “1986:The Act”, “Vaxxed”, “Vaxxed II”, “Who Killed Alex S...” & my husband sought information from
many Drs & a former NIH director decades ago - we realized that there is either a terrible ignorance or a deliberate malfeasant attempt to discredit & destroy ANYONE who would dare to question a connection to the vaxxxcenes & the autism spectrum, especially in the medical field. It truly has become a new slave plantation in thought & practice.
Do I believe gates may fall into both categories above?...both autistic & a eugenicist... quite possibly. Do I personally believe he is benefiting mankind....NO!!!
We have had to go thru 4 Drs (one of whom is our friend & Internist of 24 years, but sadly, “willfully” or seemingly very unknowlegeable about the opioid & vaxxxcene plandemic - because of the heavy handedness of the State Board of health & state health dept threatening fines ($5,000 per incident reported), etc even if he did not mask comply) ...to finally find an Integrative Functional MD who has really, truly done their research & has 40 + years of expertise & wisdom.
We have decided to humble ourselves & seek God for wisdom & direction. It has been an amazing journey!
I'm starting to wonder if what we know as autism today is not at all the same as what "higher functioning" people experience. I believe "autism" as a label has become so wide it's meaningless. I know many who hate the functioning labels, but it's useful - and maybe there should not be one bucket for this disorder. And it's not just vaccines (at least alone) to blame for the disorder, but environmental pollutants, etc, that can alter brain chemistry. Your story is so familiar, and echoes what I've been feeling - if people avoided the disorder in this generation, they will not be spared in the next. It will affect every family at some point.
Maybe their children were able to function at school like I did. It wasn't until my youngest son was diagnosed that I learned about autism and was dx at 45. There is a genetic element but it does take a willingness to look and not want to blame something else or seek an easy answer. The diagnostic process is only 80 or so years old, and more is learned all the time. I didn't have any childhood vax, nor did my brother or father, yet they both have very definite autistic traits. When something happens to a family it's natural to seek a reason why, sometimes, there isn't one. We're just wired differently because that's how we are.
I'd pretty vehemently disagree with most of what you just said, but I shouldn't, because your lived experience tells a different story, and I respect that. Autism is not inherited, we've tried over and over to prove that it is, but there's no causal genetic link that can be identified. And perpetuating the idea that we're only just seeing autistic people more now - just because we're looking - is also a dangerous and terrible lie that gives us an excuse to not look for real and current and urgent disastrous causes. Ask any special educator. They used to have a handful of complicated cases. Now they're overwhelmed with them. I have two autistic boys, and their behavior is incredibly complex and their needs are intense. The ones that got missed 50 years ago are probably still getting missed. I have an uncle who was diagnosed in his 50s. It was so helpful in understanding some of the odd things that happened throughout his life. But HE HAD ONE. If you can make it to late in life without a diagnosis, you don't get to speak for the kids who can barely function. Or speak at all. Something is happening to the kids at an accelerated rate, and pretending it's not is dangerous.
Maybe autism "just happens". My brother born in 1945 had strange issues and behavior from a very young age. Nothing much (if anything) was understood about autism in the early to mid 1950s. My parents didn't know what to do to help him, although at one point doctors suggested shock treatments, which my parents refused to do. That said, he was high functioning in many ways and extremely smart (he got a math scholarship to UC Berkeley). I only realized in the last 10 years that he is undoubtedly on the aspergers spectrum as that would explain his social behavior and inability to relate to others including in his own family. His autism was clearly not due to vaccines since at the time he was young kids got measles, mumps etc. and not much in the way of vaccines except perhaps polio later on, and his autism was showing itself by age 5 or 6 for sure.
I probably shouldn't speak so strongly on this subject, because it's a complex one. And why perhaps "autism" is way too broad, and we need a different way of thinking about this. I never scream that vaccines cause autism, because while I think they can and do play a part, thinking that is too narrow. I know of kids who are diagnosed whose parents are staunchly anti-pharma, so can't blame an injection or medicine. But damage to the brain, however mild, happens somewhere, somehow. The brain doesn't damage itself.
And I guess what gets me riled up is this idea that they've always been around. We just see them now. That is definitely true. And severely affected kids have been around, as well. But being able to shrug off what's happening by just saying, meh, it's evolution, or spontaneous, or a trait we pass through families is, in my experience, nonsensical. Like the individual who pointed out the severe escalation in the disorder cropping up in families who have never seen it before, if it WAS a simmering issue that's always been there, the pot is now boiling over, and within about 10 years, the kitchen will be on fire. (And not in the fantastical-wishy-washy climate change way.) These kids are not just quirky and struggling with social scenarios and communication. They are profoundly damaged in many ways. And therefore, WHAT is damaging them? It's not a virus. It's not a gene. It's not a traumatic brain injury due to an accident. These kids will often seem totally fine until a certain point. Then something happens. So what is that something?
I am 100% biased by my life experience, and I will own that. The higher functioning people do not accept the idea that damage took place, and that is totally fine. They don't need fixing. They also don't get to speak for kids like mine who are profoundly impacted. Spend a day in my kids' shoes, or in my house, and you'll see it's not an interesting phenomenon. It's dangerous for what it means for the future, because the effect is multiplying at an alarming rate.
Ugh. This is why I started writing about it a little. Apparently I have to. Haha!
With respect Toffeepud, you have no idea whether it has anything to do with vaccines. Simply asserting ASD existed before the vaccine schedule exploded doesn't negate the hypothesis. As someone else mildly on the spectrum I can tell you that making blanket unfounded claims like this, that dismiss the lived experiences of others, is exactly why we get tagged as "lacking empathy".
As a MOTHER who diagnosed her son with Autism and confirmed that many years later with Aspergers - all when he was still a baby before walking - and had to raise him without any diagnosis and ANY help even from his Father who was not concerned with his children. YOu Toffepud have no idea of what you are talking about !!!! are yiu one of these current "FACT FINDERS" a self proclaimed species these days???
AUTISTIC people have very high degrees of CONSCIENCE & EMPATHY unlike the Schwabs & Gates of this world - who are PSYHCOPATHS.
The first step to "fitting in" (for lack of a better term) is recognizing that how we speak and act is often seen as aloof and abrasive to others. People on the spectrum may not understand why it is so, but that doesn't change the fact that it is.
All it takes is some hesitation and reflection before shooting one's mouth off or acting. Anyone can learn that when I engage in behavior X, it annoys people, so maybe I shouldn't do behavior X. One doesn't have to understand why it annoys other people (which I realize folks with ASD have trouble) to realize it does annoy others. It may not come naturally but anyone can learn it.
Instead of helping folks with ASD learn simple social skills to better function in society, we have this "celebrate neurodiversity" nonsense which all but guarantees they will be left on the margins. It is absurd and frankly inhuman.
uselesseater - READ POST ABOVE!! BIlly Boy is a PSYCHOPATH!!!!
You are insulting people with AUTISM who do NOT NEED anymore disparig of their Vaccine caused condition. I hav esaid long before now, that I would prefer 1 of my high performing ASPERGERs SON to 1,000 of hte so called "normal" human race".
HIs deep caring for his 4 children and thoughtfulness - but one has to earn his respect - is second to none.
What led you to be diagnosed at 45 and how did a diagnosis help?
Just wondering because I hear about the whole "it manifests differently for women" but never understand what that means in practice, or in what ways it helps to have an official diagnosis.
Autism "manifests" differently for all people who are labelled with this LABEL.
that is why its is called a "Spectrum" of disorders. I met many people who are NOT labelled with an AUtism label, and many of those so called normal beings have some weird and wonderful characteristics' that can be offensive and off putting. Those people are just plain rude and poorly raised.
The incidence of autism in "developed" (ha!) countries today is probably higher than one in fifty, and the number is continuing to increase. But I'd say this phenomenon is a caused by pure, unalloyed evil, and is not related to Greek tragedy.
Its 1 in 42 in the USA acceding to Robert F Kennedy Jnr - and still increasing with all the Jabs, vaccinations of babies - a number f babies DIE from the huge number of Vaccines given -esp.,in the USA. I am NOT A Yank.
I think saying "no empathy" is too much shorthand. In my view they are genuinely baffled by the intricacies of human emotions and the nuances of every interaction. Genuinely evil people are more "normal;" they deliberately turn away from right action. These guys are on a separate path and they can't understand the problem and why nobody understands them...
quite often "they" can and do understand but do not have the speech capcacitiees to ARTICULATE their emotions. But they feel deeply and do not like emotional situations as the cannot answer therefore it is whipping up emotion within them, and adding to their frustrations so they turn away from that situation. They process it a bit slower than others and having said that I have met plenty of sio-called normal peole who are ver, very inadequate in emotional situations !!! and physcially can lash out in their frustrations - i.e. they end up in jail, or are inadequate in marriages or other scenarios.
Can we please stop with the "autistic people don't have empathy" crap? Me and my two boys are autistic and I can tell you that is not true. Autistic people are individuals who share challenges around communication and social skills and that's it. Our personalities are different. I'm so sick of this lazy, nasty trope about Gates being autistic as if this explains all his bad points. It's deeply offensive and extremely simplistic. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Autism is not the same thing as sociopathy. Autists don't lack empathy. They just don't always understand what others are feeling as well as the neurotypical. The sociopath just doesn't care, even when they are aware that someone is suffering. They're very different. So I agree, it's unfair to suggest that Gates doesn't care about killing billions because he is autistic.
Autistic people generally show empathy differently to non Autistic people, and "normal" people don't understand our way of empathising. Typically. Yes, Gates is more likely a sociopath.
Thank you. I approached my GP. My youngest child was going through the assessment process and I realised that I was probably also autistic. I did the adult quotient test online and took the results along. If you're in the UK, the wait is lengthy can be 4 years due to funding. They will send you for mental health screening first, and if that is being impacted, you move up the queue a bit. Good luck!
True: if anything autistics are too empathic, but have an impaired ability to express it the noral way, meaning the brain locks up. Couple with less micro-signals facial expession, tone of voice, you know what I mean) this makes the person seem at times uncaring, and at other times much too agitated.
Learning how to process and expess emotion - /both/ spontaneous and in the society approved manner and form - should be key in any training regime for autisitics, really.
Disagree about facial expressions. Some of us have all our feelings on our faces. Everything. No poker faces here. And are capable of more than a monotone as well. And, I think you must be US based because we don't do "training" for autistic people in the UK on a large scale.
"If you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person."
Training social interaction is a must, if one is to be able to teach HFA students as I have done.
They must learn to accept human interaction the way it works and develop skills to maneuver around their stumbling blocks, and they mjst do it in a safe and controlled environment where a faux pas does not lead to bullying, shaming or ostracisation (as is too often the case in the school yard).
They must also accept that they have zero right to demand ithers not use certain words: no one has that right, period, end of. Equal treatment does not mean protection from things one does not approve of, simple as that.
Nice that you apologized but this is quite the pot calling the kettle black episode. The person getting all upset regarding the lack of empathy comment then unloaded on you and finished with "you have no idea what you are talking about". Seems to me someone with empathy would have realized there was no offence intended rather than launching a personal attack. Physician, heal thyself.
I agree with your statements here Toffeepud - totally!! have you ever thought that your sons have LEARNT your behaviurs and coping skills and therefire they have the AUtistic l label (I Loathe labels) and rarely ever refer to my son with that Asoergers/Autism label. MOst people think he is huts a quiet type person whio is extremely interesting in his overwhelming knowledge of many areas,m and has a wonderful black sens eof humour as he sees so acutely other people emotinal fallibilities. I treasure him so so so very much. HIs determination and learnt resilience to matter that would flatten so called "normal" people is incredible.
Gates, Bezos and Zuckerberg are all on the spectrum. There is an interview with Bezos around 1999/2000 when Amazon was still just selling books and its quite obvious he's not quite "there". One can clearly see that there is some kind of emotional disconnect with Zuckerberg at any of his Senate hearing appearances.
SOCIOPATHIC tendencies - a Father who was President of the local kill the population group? I think one needs to look closely at Gates Mother and Father
The only problem I have with it (based of my experience as a teacher of such students, some in the IQ 150+ range) is that one can't diagnose someone in that way and manner. this is a pet peeve of mine from my working days, being annoyed woth parents and colleagues depserat to explain a students misbehaviour or ther problems with the diagnosis a la mode at the time. I'd say 9/10 diagnosed with Asperger's/ADHD/ADD have degrees of the required behaviour but it is learned due to social-psychological circumstances, not neurological. But as the diagnosis is a 'Get out of responsibility'-card for parents, and means more money for the school (at least here), well... Maybe I'm just bitter?
Gates may well be what is now called HFA, with severely impaired or even non-existant instinct for social interaction, but without a formal and proper investigation and examination, it's just guesswork.
"Neurodiversity", eurgh. If anything, it just gives people with problems an excuse not to make themselves better. Like telling an alcoholic "oh, it's a disease, it's not your fault" -good luck quitting the bottle after that one.
Imagine applying that logic to diabetes and allergies.
Oh yes it's a money garden everywhere. Funny thing. One of my cousins has a now-nearly adult kid who very clearly does have what for short-hand we'll call autism, and school-year custody was mostly with her ex who is a "recovering alcoholic," and eventually moved to Sweden with the au pair (her native country) and insisted the services there for the child were far superior so again it's school-year custody. (I guess he must be aged out of custody agreements now and perhaps he's chosen to stay there. ) I myself believe the kid would thrive away from both parents. I found it quite painful, meeting the kid once here in the US when he was nearly 13, how common sense was entirely absent with the mom and maternal grandparents. Hoping the now-stepmom is a more sensible person.
I did have a part-time job once as a tour guide in an children's "farm" and we had many many extremely impaired children and adults visiting who fit the parameters for severe autism. The teachers/caregivers were almost universally incompetent. Very painful to see.
I agree with you to a point. My frustration with what you said is that people, if they can, will do what they need to make themselves better. This type of problem, a mental difference, like depression, anxiety, autism, etc. is notoriously difficult to fix. Most try their entire lives and never really fix these problems. On your side of the argument, I'll agree that some of these problems are amenable to amelioration if some effort is expended. But real resolution of these types of problems remains elusive.
Almost everyone who hasn't had a perfectly blessed life struggles at one point or another with these challenges. But now, instead of a person feeling they must forge through the daunting obstacle, they take it as an identity and whine that the world, or the school, or the job, etc. etc. etc. must accommodate to their disability.
A physical disability that deprives a person of one or more of the senses that we all need to navigate through the world, or that cripples the body so that simple activities become extraordinary challenges, requires any civilized society to provide assistance with. But mental illnesses do not necessarily deprive someone of agency. Life is hard. For some it is harder than others. But if you've lost basic survival instincts and the drive to overcome, the world isn't responsible for your misery.
It's not supposed to be fixed: the person is supposed to receive training as to be able to handle normal life. You can't fix autism anymore than you can fix me being a southpaw redhead.
It is the insistence that all of society contort to adapt to every single identitatrian characteristic no matter its source that is Hell on wheels for many disabled and others. The autistic savant stereotype means those that aren't HFAs feel doubly failed - the theories of inclusiveness and so on actually hurts them.
Think of it as basic: everyone must complete the track, do pick apart and reassemble, and so on. If you can't you get extra training, if you won't you're out. But no one should get to pass due to lowering the bar.
Would you like to go on a 747 with an autistic oilot with ADHD? Or would you like a screening and vetting process to make sure that such a person is on top of their problems, same as everyone else?
ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) is neither an indicator of brilliance, nor of intellectual limitation. From my own experience of it, the 2 variables seem to be quite independent. However, those who have ASD and high intellectual function do show specific cognitive qualities - i.e their intelligence manifests with particular quirks. The tendency to obsessive thought - tunnel vision - can be both good and bad, in this context.
OTOH, those with ASD and more limited intellectual capacity seem to suffer more than a normally stupid person - and in a position of power, cause more suffering to others.
As for Bill Gates, you can explain his social awkwardness, lack of empathy and lack of ability to consider a wider context by ASD. In his case, combined with limited intellectual capacity.
My understanding is that he was funded and supported by some powerful elites, probably because of his family background. The myth of Bill Gates as brilliant entrepreneur is just that, a myth. His business partner (who Gates stabbed in the back) provided the creative innovation, such as it was.
I also have a suspicion that Gates is a puppet, and is being manipulated by others behind the scenes with a very sinister agenda. Like Joe Biden & many others in power.
thats right - his business prowess is sa myth! read up on how IBM were persuaded by his socialite mother to help him set up Microsoft and he bought /poached another company's' software - sorry cannot remember the name of that softwarre company. THere is a video of a former high ranking IBM person who states that he thinks Gates is merely an opportunist not a brilliant talent.
BILLY GATES Is a PSYCHOPATH NOTHING to do with being AUTISTIC - that is an deep insult to genuinely autistic people, who are very sensitive people..
Since thsi started is has been obvious that there are many puppets who are expendable and Billy Boy is one of them. He learnt from the beginning to pay off and use other people. Mummy and his Daddy too appear to have the same trait.
It’s like the end the the TV show St. Elsewhere,we find out the entire show the imagination of a autistic boy looking at a snow globe,we are in Gate’s snow globe.
Why is anyone the way he or she is? Your question is unanswerable. Or it's too subtle or mysterious, well beyond the possibilities of this online discussion.
No, I'm asking for a definition of "dorkness." I think Gates' effect on the world is horrendous, and that human beings who aren't profoundly disabled are responsible for their choices, but I also do think Gates has a genuine inability to see outside of any but a seriously constrained line-of-sight. Miswired people are extremely dangerous when they have resources and power to do what they want, especially if they are unable to perceive nuance.
Evil, on the other hand, is a deliberate choice by those who understand wrongness and proceed anyway. It's not a state of being reserved only for sociopaths, who can exercise restraint but are uninterested in doing so.
Someone once said, “nothing is weird anymore”. That was even before this diversity nonsense took hold. Sorry, there is something called normal and abnormal.
Exactly. Watch any of his Microsoft depositions and one can clearly see he is on the spectrum. The rocking back and forth, the inability to conceptualize simple problems or scenarios, inappropriate laughing or smiling when asked stressful questions. Its all there.
YOu appear to have watched Billy Bou at his cross examination by hte Gov't some years back. (don't know what the name of that INvestigation was - something to donwith his monopoly of the Tech world. He is an actor pure and simply and was putting on the mad tech head HAT to not answer questions. USA Lawyers "Coach" their CLients.......
THAT can be PSYCHOPATHIC behaviour and also Gates is a cunning A.......... so look very critically at his manifested behaviourSS . HE IS NOT AUTISTIC. He is a DORK and a very evil manipulative being. NOTE: I do NOT use the word HUMAN.
I have NEVER EVER thought of Billy Boy as being n AUtistic person - NEVER!! and I am more acquainted than many with knowledge of AUtism.
Billy BOy is simply a nasty manipulative NUT case who has turned his intelligence to his Fathers and MOthers pet passion - exterminating the human race as they think they are superior beings - what a joe! PSCYCOPATHS no 1 aim is " TO WIN AT ALL COSTS" money comes fter that PSYCOPATHS nO1 RULE on THEIR AGENDA. they never let anyone know of their AGENDA - ANYONE. though these psycopaths have found their home in SCHWABS Davos nest.
No I'm sorry, the problem with people like Gates is they are surrounded by yes men. That's it. Autistic people are not the root of society problems. Really offensive.
Just because you are autistic, idiot-savant, Downs Syndrome etc, however seemingly inspired your utterances/actions are, it does not make you a paragon of wisdom. It also does not automatically let you occupy a special place in the intellectual community.
It doesn't give you the right to be abusive or vile towards us either. And I never said it did. The term idiot savant btw went out with the Ark. Mind your language.
Do you want equal treatment? Or do you want discrimination? Pick one. Equal treatment means not being tone/speech police: we all have labels applied to us all the time. Autistic, as in having a cognitive defect of the brain to the point it affects daily life and interaction, is one such label. It is not a value judgement netiher positive nor negative.
And the vast majority of people with autism, ADHD, ADD etc. have normal to lower than normal intelligence. A tiny percentage, if it's even 1% have the right combination of factors to be able to use theuir disabilities to their advantage - to use this not representative minority as the face of the category as a whole is disingenious and hurts thise people who needs help with their daily life.
You can easily compare it to the similar pattern in the letterbox of sexual orinetation-movement, feminism, racial segregation movement (ACLU BLM, Antifa, other racist organisations) - a select little group make themselves the face and spokesperson for the whole, unelected, "for the greater good". The result?
A change in societal evaluation of ability leading to a lessening of tolerance, aid and understanding and marking the group as a whole as something they are not, making the stigma of belonging to the group doubly bad.
You have the same choice as feminists: either the privilege of being a woman, or equal treatment with men, f.e. as regards to physical demands, fighting talk, etc.
Just a level playing field actually. And your assessment of autism and the capabilities of us, is incorrect btw. I'm asking people to stop diagnosing bill Gates as autistic and using that trait as an explanation for his wickedness.
"To use this not representative minority as the face of the category as whole is disingenuous." Yes, 1000%. I also struggle with those who can clearly advocate for themselves as the spokespeople for autism. Again, those that can function as adults, regardless of how they've had to suppress behavior or work harder to adapt, do not get to speak for my kids who will never have a shot at anything resembling a normal life. And I don't care what normal is, really. I've finally started to admit to myself that I need to prepare to have adult children with me forever. That used to be rare. It is no longer rare.
Totally agree. Here in NZ, people with physical disabilities advocated strongly for the closure of 'sheltered workshops' as they said it was unfair that people working there did not get regular wages. So they were closed down meaning many people with cognitive impairments etc now have nowhere to go during the day and parents/families do not get time away from their responsibilities. I hope where ever you are that you are getting the love and support you need.
I like the term "idiot savant." I have a sister who is theoretically very intelligent, but who is in fact a Kool-Aid-drinking, Covid Cult die-hard True Believer. She has an undergraduate degree in Molecular Biology from Harvard, as well as a Master's of Science degree in Electrical Engineering from MIT. I consider her to be among the vast throngs of idiot savants, those "exceptionally highly educated" people who think they are extremely intelligent, but who are in fact stupid beyond belief. She is not only incapable of scientific independent thinking, she is completely spiritually ignorant. People like her are dangerous. Unfortunately, there are millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions, of people like her among us. These are the monsters who control our societies.
AN ABSOLUTELY "SPOT ON" observation. and I can back up my statement with much EVIDENCE.
or as I have told people that we have now educated people whose parents/family members/ historically did not obtain a Degree - and they think that knowledge in one area of life makes them complete and superior as a person.
I told my children that a Degree merely gives you a foot over the starting line of life, but many who are highly motivated shall fly past you in chasing their goals in life. That a Degree should stimulate you to critical thinking and a n awareness that there is so much to learn in and experience in life. They wre raised to contribute to society not be total consumers at others expense - sadly we are going through Psychopaths "heaven" aided by technology and so much else that is out of balance, caused by humans that have NO CONCSCIENCE NO EMPATHY ETC., read PSYCHOPATHS
You Alan Segal appear to be part of the Psychopathic world, to make such inhuman insensitive comments. Toffeepud is having the courage to try to make known to the best of her knowledge the world that an Autistic person experiences, and its different for all Autistic people - the same as for the so -called "normal" - we all have different experiences and ways of telling it.
You come across like so many of these Fact finders and similar ilk, i.e. be a bully boy - like some kid in the playground , call someone better than you by derogatory names!! to try to diminish them.
Like many people with PhDs at present who demean their own professional persons who stand upo and are counted in this EVIL SLIME Level that the Faucis and medical board members and so many other so called responsiuble people who have clearly been corrupted i.e. "paid off puppets" who destroy their colleagues careers and so much more.
You don't know me and have made a false allegation to put it mildly. There is a tendency now to think of some people outside the norm as having magical insight into the worlds problems. Sorry, I don't buy it. Nothing against them as human beings, they should live and be well. But wisdom is a trait bestowed on people who have proven that their abilities actually work in practice for the betterment of mankind, by taking knowledge and applying it rationally. It is for this reason scientists, billionaires and other "experts" don't make good public policy (Fauci et al). All decisions come with costs. Wisdom is the ability to make those decisions causing the least harm.
If there is a "hypernormie" left alive anywhere, please show me this zoological specimen...
Unless of course you mean by that the obsessive neurotics who make up the professional class of society these days. Because they seem to have colonized the landscape and driven out the heirloom species...
Psychopaths adn that ilk are way beyond the label of a Neurotic which means an inappropriate emotional response. These Sociopaths etc., have a very distinct reactions in their behaviours. Lying in one of them and constantly changing their responses to whatever best suites their purposes. Autism stay firm in their assessments.
Look at the current changing comments from these WEF, Gates, Fauci and others, they intertwine facts with their weird interpreations so causung the majority to believe what they come out with as these people love power/control./manipulation and say whatever to keep that control/manipuation ...... and being in positions of power that holds the public captive too. esp., those who do not resaerch nor do critical thinking..
I read the book very carefully. My conclusion is that Gates is in a bubble or probably better said, an echo chamber, and that he has been influenced and guided by a small group of progressive globalists who have convinced him (not hard to do) that their vision is the one to embrace. He is not well-educated or well-rounded socially or emotionally. I don't think he is evil, just limited in his thinking and intellect. He thinks he is doing the right thing. If he didn't have his billions to make this vision into a reality, it would just be sad and pathetic, instead of dangerous to us all.
A limited intellect existing in a self-chosen echo chamber coupled with massive hubris and billions of dollars that empowers it to impose its catastophic errors on humanity is not "pathetic". It is a criminally insane. These do-gooder destroyers of humanity alwyas plead - after the fact - "But I didn't know!" That is no defense. If you didn't know then why did you act? And why did you execute your actions with such moralistic and hubristic certainty? You acted as if you knew "for sure" while you were doing it, and while you were categorically rejecting any evidence or suggestion you were doing harm not good. I have no sympathy for people driven by their hubris to plague humanity.
I also don't think Gates is evil. I actually agree with him on some issues, such as school choice. But the fact that he wants to do good is almost more concerning to me than if he had nefarious plans. The quote from C.S. Lewis comes to mind:
"It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
it's the religious sprit and hypocrite attitude....caused by arrogance and pride...ppl are blinded by their own arrogance to their own peril. Arrogant ppl trust and believe in other arrogant ppl, never a good outcome. Why 50+ percent of the world just allowed themselves to possibly be injured by the jabs and followed the 'science' (stupidity) insane masks/lockdowns of narcissistic pedophiles who enjoyed inflicting harm and controlling others...typical satanic response. WE WERE ALL DUPED by evil ppl. Unfortunately we forget easily.
I think Gates is evil, but simply an Aspergers type evil. Just because he has a “good” intention for his misdeeds doesn’t make him any less worthy of the label. Evil is a strange concept with religious connotations that suggests a need for a particular species of motivation, but I think the real proof is in the results of their consistent actions.
I agree, Miami. The outcomes are the realities. The intentions are the expected realities. When you do something that, to a "normally intellignet person", will generate a bad outcome, you are guilty of a criminal act for producing that outcome. It doesn't matter what you "thought" would happen. It matters what actually happened as a result of your actions. I don't remember which of Kurt Vonnegut's characters had fired a rifle in celebration of something, and the bullet killed somebody. The rifleman didn't "intend" to kill anybody. But that is no consolation to the dead person or their family. Consequences count. Intentions are irrelevant, when it should be obvious to the actor that the possible consequences re dire to other people or to humanity as a whole.
A college dropout (ordinarily not a bad thing), who doesn't know what he doesn't know, and has no respect for the hard work necessary to accumulate real understanding of complex systems. Much like the bureaucrats he idolizes. Arrogance, but with the money and influence to be dangerous. He's also unilaterally trying to block out the sun with a chalk release into the mesosphere, no discussion, no debate, no idea what the real consequence. Terrifying.
Billy Boy as a true Psycohopath is fulfilling those evil needs and I agree has no idea that he is such a %^&*().
to MANIPULATE, CONTROL and PLAY CHILDISH GAMES IS PART OF THEIR AGENDA (internal agenda) and they think they are ALWAYS RIGHT, and BLAME EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT THEMSELVES. Signs & Symptoms of a classic PsychoPATH.
What constantly eludes these freaks is that for all their talk of good, innovation, global health, cooperation and so on, he never ever explains that the only way this works is IF YOU FORCE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT YOU SAY AT ALL TIMES
Masks? Forced
Lockdowns and closures? Forced
Capacity limits? Forced
Testing? Forced
Vaccination? Forced
There is, lets say, a marginal cost to this life of medical authoritarianism. Does the benefit outweigh the cost?
I present Exhibit A - Shanghai 2022. Every single person out there - Gates included - who has backed the zerocovid insanity and containment measures - can have a good look at what the natural extension of their ideas and policies is.
I am looking day in and out for ways to do more - but I really am short of ideas
The majority agree with you, but NOW its no longer time to chat away on these sites (to make money for others) its time for each individual to actively INVOLVE themselves in their communties et., in whatever way they can contribute to bring these Elite CRIMINALS to JUSTICE.
ONe way is to continuously write/inform your so called politicians that you are not supporting them unless they change legislation. DO NOT WAIT for the mext election as this AGENDA is rapidly being instituted in the World and these Criminals count on the people doing the "DECENT THING". NO MORE!! fight fire with FIRE and smarter.
I did do deep research since early March 2020 - voluntarily-to assist a group, but now they are on the path and do have paid staff that is no longer overwhelmed with what this is all about and have reliable info sites, that writing sometimes to these blog sites as I do have knowledgevand experiences. But I m not here to line another persons pockets with my hard won experience and knowledge, and NOW more than ever its a necessity to be active in a braoder sense as this hundreds of years old depopulation is beign so rapdily rolled out, and i am not just referring to the QR identifiers on those that had hte Jabs, nor the QR in the WHATS APP that many peoplehave no idea of what using WHATS APP is doing to them.
This needs posters on Community BOards and leaflets/newsletter etc., in ones local COmmunity and the broader Community. Delcately handled conversations to inform others who still follow the mantras as they have been so dumbed down for many years and still cannot "swallow" that ALL Levels of society/business have been CORRUPTED, so much so that its now institutional in Medical areas etc.,
Get people to SUPPORT Dr Trozzi in Canada (a former 25 years Emergency Doctor and more, who has sold his home and still has family to raise and yet he is volunterring so much of his expertise and full time to eradicating this Evil from peoples lives, he is also on the World Council for Health, a VOLUNTARY BOard trying to present n open and hoinest parallel option to the WHO & the CEO former Warlord (Tedros G....NOT a Dr) and does so much else.
JOIN the World Council For HEALTH. Support them in whatever way you can. as WHO is trying to TAKE OVER every Countrys; Health Departments. Remember GATES is the 2nd largest Donor to this United Nations that is linked and many other nefarious groups are linked to WHO.
wasn't it part of a Moderna (Bill Gates) patented component that made it's way mysteriously into COVID19!!!!!!! Here's how to prevent the next pandemic. destroy Moderna!! How about this one Bill....make everyone, everywhere in the world that enters/exits a Level 4 biolab subject to 8 weeks of quarantine when they exit!!!
Firstly, gates didn't write one line of code. He stole it from Paul Allen and then marketed it without much competition. Secondly, being a billionaire means nothing as far having brains or ability or truly caring about humanity. I think billy hates that humanity is stealing his planetary resources, an idea he got from his leftist father.
So, humanity has to go. And since he is beyond arrogant, why not rape the planet for more wealth as he is murdering off its inhabitants? He is a true leftist scumbag because everywhere he goes, people suffer and die.
Gates has created software independently and in conjunction with Allen, so "didn't write one line of code" is a bit unfair. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_BASIC. But Gates showed his real skill in screwing Ed Roberts (Dr, RIP) who brought Microsoft into the world. Extending that version of Basic into later instances probably didn't involve much of Gates as a creator but more the business person who became even better at screwing others.
I doubt Gates was ever motivated by money so much as he was motivated with domination over a business area. I suspect any caring about people was imparted to him by his wife, maybe his children. His concern about humanity seems only through her.
"He could retire to a tropical island with his favourite mind-altering substances and a harem of nubile young women"
Called Epstein Island. Billy the Weirdo a regular there we gather, indeed, his association with the Paedo Master was it seems why his wife left him (well, you would, wouldn't you?)
Thank you for taking this one for the team. Fascinating insights into his character. These people must be relieved of their power so they stop feeling the need to use it.
So much bizarre about Gates and the rest of transhumance tech boomers.They stripped away God and replaced him (or her Sophia maybe) with a bunch of post Age of Aquarius California nonsense.Whole Tech-World based in USA Northwest is one big cult ,add people like Marina Abramovic (who was 1st celebrity in muh Ukraine video) and Epstein and you get a guy in Gates who could be blackmailed,could be some super narcissistic man child wanted to be the autistic overlord of humanity or something worse.Howard Hughes was such a better billionaire,went insane but lockdowned himself and created a medical foundation to get around government taxes.We got the Anti-Hughes who became government and probably makes Hughes look completely sane in comparison.
Thanks for your comment which encouraged me to do an internet search for Hughes as it sparked my memory from when he was still around. He is so much more interesting than Gates and actually did things. Couldn't help having a chuckle that (according to Wiki) Terry Moore on the back of a memoir and nil evidence managed to squeeze some loot out of his estate in 1984. Only in America!
Watch the movie “The Aviator” very good film and it starts with a young Hughes being pestered by his mother over a contagious virus,he is forced to spell out  “quarantine” ,very spooky in light of 2020.
Yes ,excellent movie and shows you how the government tried to bully him .Hughes was a genius of the rare type ,maybe Elon Musk will follow in his footsteps without the psychological problems that hindered Hughes.
It's some amount of moral vanity, but it's also a great way to get richer. He personally buys stock in a company, then he uses his foundation's money to fund research at the company, leams on friends (WHO, Fauci, etc.) to get governments to fund that company's work with taxpayers' money, and presto! He's even richer. Asking why Bill Gates does what he does is like asking why Paul Offit votes Yes for every vaccine: because he has a financial stake in the outcome.
Both men, I think, also subscribe to an "ends justify the means" philosophy, although I think Gates is OK with a much higher collateral damage figure than Offit is. Morally, though, it's a similar position. They have a calculator where another person's conscience is.
If you look at the whole "own nothing and be happy" crowd,.they all want a world in which most people rent damned near everything... from them. I don't get why you find this hard to believe: that very wealthy people want to become wealthier and exclude the masses from all the nice stuff. Like a gated community, but (1) everywhere and everything and (2) people outside the gates are paying rent to people inside.
You and I don't want to control others or make them into our serfs, but we're also not (for example) child molesters. There is no reason to think that what makes Gates happy (more money than he could ever spend, and control of other people) is any more normal than what makes a child molester happy.
And the money is in everything. Remote school means no textbools, just subscriptioms to online cr*p, all.of which are renewed annually at great cost to the taxpayer.
It wasn’t disclosed in Report 9 that Neil Ferguson is funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. I suspect Bill Gates was very aware of Ferguson et al’s report…
Ferguson is a member of SAGE, the UK group which was so influential on the Covid-19 response. In November 2020 I submitted a rapid response to The BMJ (The British Medical Journal), see: Who are the members of SAGE? There must be transparency and accountability for coronavirus policy: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4235/rr-1
Subsequently, in December 2020, The BMJ published the article: Covid-19: SAGE members’ interests published by government 10 months into pandemic: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4911
This document notes, among other disclosures, that Neil Ferguson is Principal Investigator, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance grant – Vaccine Impact Modelling Consortium.
Ferguson et al’s Report 9 did not clearly disclose conflicts of interest - Ferguson’s association with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation should have been disclosed.
We have to find a way of limiting (if not completely removing) the ability of single person (been s/he billionaire or celebrity - aka weirdos) to affect billions of people lives because these individuals are usually outliers and don't even understand the every day life of an ordinary person. Let them enjoy their money and fame IN PRIVATE and leave the rest of us alone
Whatever Gates' motivations may be, the major lesson I've learned from the pandemic is that gun ownership is really, REALLY important. I used to believe guns should be illegal, but now I think the only way this sort of overbearing technocratic totalitarianism is going to be brought to heel is if governments live in fear of their citizens.
My kids are gonna grow up knowing how to shoot, and knowing how important is is that they be capable of violence.
Medal for Eugyppius for doing something so we don't have to.
This is as good a review as I have ever read. Bravo!
And I always thought Bill is dedicated to eugenics not saving lives.Is all the live saving propaganda in his book just sanctimonious pretending on steroids .? He knows nothing about medicine and is not a doctor or virus scientist .If he wants to do some good he can give his money to the injured his injections of the venom is causing and shut down the labs of death producing brews ,he is so much involved in .
Rubbish, she lacks MANY IMPORTANT FACTS in hertdiatribe.
who is she?
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I think it is quite simple. In the olden days, high-functioning autistics were the eccentric men and women who were the staples of British fiction. Their obsessions couldn't reach very far, generally, and couldn't be spread globally at the click of readily-available electronic devices.
Now we celebrate the "neurodiverse," or they force us to do so, and we've demonized the word and concept "normal" because it's mean to suggest that certain ways of thinking, though they underpin a great deal of creativity, are nevertheless very bad for the overall health of society.
Gates is a typically obsessive Asperger's type. With too much money. That's it.
And for anyone distressed by the generality of my comment here: I have very dear friends with now adult kids with disabling autism and their suffering is always with me. It's nothing to celebrate. Even hgh-functioning people on the spectrum are vulnerable to exploitation and deal painfully with the challenges of forming relationships. Miswiring has high costs.
Exactly what I was going to post. Know someone who socialized with Gates in Seattle. The two couples would go to Mariners games. Melinda had to count out money for Gates. He is soooooo on the spectrum. Here is my add on, Gates isn’t the only billionaire on the spectrum. They have no empathy for others. So, it’s very easy for them to accept that the world population needs to be reduced by 7 billion in order to save the planet without emotional angst.
According to RFK Jr. autism has increased in the last 50 years from 1/10,000 to 1/50 so there is a Greek tragedy aspect to Gate's obsession with vaccines.
I wonder if in a significant number of instances it's become a boutique diagnosis for a number of reasons, including insurance coverage and disability services. Some people claiming to be autistic are more likely to have personality disorders with less sympathetic labels.
Well, to qualify that I would say that 50 years ago understanding of autism was minimal and only the people with the most severe displaying symptoms were "picked up" and there was no recognition that girls could be autistic. I was dx at 45 yrs of age. During that 50 years its been discovered that it's an inherited condition, not exclusive to men, that we can mask our difficulties especially women. Has nothing to do with vaccines.
Not so sure. There are now 72 vaccines recommended/required for kids before the age of 18. This is my lived anecdotal experience: My grandson has autism. In my swimming group, there are four grandchildren with autism. In my tennis group, there are three. In my golf group, one friend has a niece whose three children all have severe autism. None of these friends have children with autism, only grandchildren. Watch "1986: The Act" and see Pharma and the regulatory agencies acknowledge autism as a side effect of vaccines.
Yes! Thank you! As a simple observation after 45 years of teaching swimming to all ages, predominately children from age 4 - 12...I did not see, observe or deal with autistic symptoms in my classes & individual students (even lifeguards) I taught & trained until into the 1990’s. Many of the parents had been referred to me to take their child (predominately boys) to teach privately. Several believed their child had developed the autism after a childhood vaxxx, but were scoffed at, ignored, etc. It infuriates me that the scientific & especially the medical community is so abysmally controlled by the Biggg Pharmasss “quackcene” INDUSTRY that any discussion of a connection is absolutely quashed.
Another individual with a theory that may be worth investigating is MIT scientist (among other things) Dr Stephanie Seneff, who has written & explored the toxicity of glyphosate in the environment & a contributing factor. She has very interesting information. It may well be the toxicity of our soils, air, water & bodily injections of very poorly tested inoculations that causes a seemingly irreversible toxic overload with resulting cases on the autism spectrum.
When talking with our farming friends, they become verrry aggravated that we would dare to question the wonderful usage of glyphosate. I see similar responses from our Dr friends over the years - they absolutely love this abominable vaxxxcene schedule.
Nursing friends are quite different - 7 out of our 8 nursing friends are opposed to the vaxxxcenes (all of them) & have been for years.) They see the autism connection & diet. They applaud Drs who are waking up. We have all seen the Drs ostracized & threatened with their livelihood who simply question the heavy usage of vaxxes. Dr Wakefield’s story early on ....Dr Daniel Neides formerly of the famed Cleveland Clinic (I would no longer take my dog there to that lab rat clinic). My two Applied Kinesiologists (over 45 yrs each in their respective practice) are adamantly opposed to all vaxxxcenes) When my atty husband & I viewed the documentary, “1986:The Act”, “Vaxxed”, “Vaxxed II”, “Who Killed Alex S...” & my husband sought information from
many Drs & a former NIH director decades ago - we realized that there is either a terrible ignorance or a deliberate malfeasant attempt to discredit & destroy ANYONE who would dare to question a connection to the vaxxxcenes & the autism spectrum, especially in the medical field. It truly has become a new slave plantation in thought & practice.
Do I believe gates may fall into both categories above?...both autistic & a eugenicist... quite possibly. Do I personally believe he is benefiting mankind....NO!!!
We have had to go thru 4 Drs (one of whom is our friend & Internist of 24 years, but sadly, “willfully” or seemingly very unknowlegeable about the opioid & vaxxxcene plandemic - because of the heavy handedness of the State Board of health & state health dept threatening fines ($5,000 per incident reported), etc even if he did not mask comply) ...to finally find an Integrative Functional MD who has really, truly done their research & has 40 + years of expertise & wisdom.
We have decided to humble ourselves & seek God for wisdom & direction. It has been an amazing journey!
I'm starting to wonder if what we know as autism today is not at all the same as what "higher functioning" people experience. I believe "autism" as a label has become so wide it's meaningless. I know many who hate the functioning labels, but it's useful - and maybe there should not be one bucket for this disorder. And it's not just vaccines (at least alone) to blame for the disorder, but environmental pollutants, etc, that can alter brain chemistry. Your story is so familiar, and echoes what I've been feeling - if people avoided the disorder in this generation, they will not be spared in the next. It will affect every family at some point.
Maybe their children were able to function at school like I did. It wasn't until my youngest son was diagnosed that I learned about autism and was dx at 45. There is a genetic element but it does take a willingness to look and not want to blame something else or seek an easy answer. The diagnostic process is only 80 or so years old, and more is learned all the time. I didn't have any childhood vax, nor did my brother or father, yet they both have very definite autistic traits. When something happens to a family it's natural to seek a reason why, sometimes, there isn't one. We're just wired differently because that's how we are.
I'd pretty vehemently disagree with most of what you just said, but I shouldn't, because your lived experience tells a different story, and I respect that. Autism is not inherited, we've tried over and over to prove that it is, but there's no causal genetic link that can be identified. And perpetuating the idea that we're only just seeing autistic people more now - just because we're looking - is also a dangerous and terrible lie that gives us an excuse to not look for real and current and urgent disastrous causes. Ask any special educator. They used to have a handful of complicated cases. Now they're overwhelmed with them. I have two autistic boys, and their behavior is incredibly complex and their needs are intense. The ones that got missed 50 years ago are probably still getting missed. I have an uncle who was diagnosed in his 50s. It was so helpful in understanding some of the odd things that happened throughout his life. But HE HAD ONE. If you can make it to late in life without a diagnosis, you don't get to speak for the kids who can barely function. Or speak at all. Something is happening to the kids at an accelerated rate, and pretending it's not is dangerous.
Maybe autism "just happens". My brother born in 1945 had strange issues and behavior from a very young age. Nothing much (if anything) was understood about autism in the early to mid 1950s. My parents didn't know what to do to help him, although at one point doctors suggested shock treatments, which my parents refused to do. That said, he was high functioning in many ways and extremely smart (he got a math scholarship to UC Berkeley). I only realized in the last 10 years that he is undoubtedly on the aspergers spectrum as that would explain his social behavior and inability to relate to others including in his own family. His autism was clearly not due to vaccines since at the time he was young kids got measles, mumps etc. and not much in the way of vaccines except perhaps polio later on, and his autism was showing itself by age 5 or 6 for sure.
I probably shouldn't speak so strongly on this subject, because it's a complex one. And why perhaps "autism" is way too broad, and we need a different way of thinking about this. I never scream that vaccines cause autism, because while I think they can and do play a part, thinking that is too narrow. I know of kids who are diagnosed whose parents are staunchly anti-pharma, so can't blame an injection or medicine. But damage to the brain, however mild, happens somewhere, somehow. The brain doesn't damage itself.
And I guess what gets me riled up is this idea that they've always been around. We just see them now. That is definitely true. And severely affected kids have been around, as well. But being able to shrug off what's happening by just saying, meh, it's evolution, or spontaneous, or a trait we pass through families is, in my experience, nonsensical. Like the individual who pointed out the severe escalation in the disorder cropping up in families who have never seen it before, if it WAS a simmering issue that's always been there, the pot is now boiling over, and within about 10 years, the kitchen will be on fire. (And not in the fantastical-wishy-washy climate change way.) These kids are not just quirky and struggling with social scenarios and communication. They are profoundly damaged in many ways. And therefore, WHAT is damaging them? It's not a virus. It's not a gene. It's not a traumatic brain injury due to an accident. These kids will often seem totally fine until a certain point. Then something happens. So what is that something?
I am 100% biased by my life experience, and I will own that. The higher functioning people do not accept the idea that damage took place, and that is totally fine. They don't need fixing. They also don't get to speak for kids like mine who are profoundly impacted. Spend a day in my kids' shoes, or in my house, and you'll see it's not an interesting phenomenon. It's dangerous for what it means for the future, because the effect is multiplying at an alarming rate.
Ugh. This is why I started writing about it a little. Apparently I have to. Haha!
Are you aware of the entire polio story?
Am just asking if DDT usage might have had an effect?
With respect Toffeepud, you have no idea whether it has anything to do with vaccines. Simply asserting ASD existed before the vaccine schedule exploded doesn't negate the hypothesis. As someone else mildly on the spectrum I can tell you that making blanket unfounded claims like this, that dismiss the lived experiences of others, is exactly why we get tagged as "lacking empathy".
As a MOTHER who diagnosed her son with Autism and confirmed that many years later with Aspergers - all when he was still a baby before walking - and had to raise him without any diagnosis and ANY help even from his Father who was not concerned with his children. YOu Toffepud have no idea of what you are talking about !!!! are yiu one of these current "FACT FINDERS" a self proclaimed species these days???
AUTISTIC people have very high degrees of CONSCIENCE & EMPATHY unlike the Schwabs & Gates of this world - who are PSYHCOPATHS.
Get YOUR FACTS RIGHT fact finder.
LOL! I don't want to pile on Toffeepud but when I read his rather insensitive response to me I thought "Spoken like a true autist".
The first step to "fitting in" (for lack of a better term) is recognizing that how we speak and act is often seen as aloof and abrasive to others. People on the spectrum may not understand why it is so, but that doesn't change the fact that it is.
All it takes is some hesitation and reflection before shooting one's mouth off or acting. Anyone can learn that when I engage in behavior X, it annoys people, so maybe I shouldn't do behavior X. One doesn't have to understand why it annoys other people (which I realize folks with ASD have trouble) to realize it does annoy others. It may not come naturally but anyone can learn it.
Instead of helping folks with ASD learn simple social skills to better function in society, we have this "celebrate neurodiversity" nonsense which all but guarantees they will be left on the margins. It is absurd and frankly inhuman.
uselesseater - READ POST ABOVE!! BIlly Boy is a PSYCHOPATH!!!!
You are insulting people with AUTISM who do NOT NEED anymore disparig of their Vaccine caused condition. I hav esaid long before now, that I would prefer 1 of my high performing ASPERGERs SON to 1,000 of hte so called "normal" human race".
HIs deep caring for his 4 children and thoughtfulness - but one has to earn his respect - is second to none.
What led you to be diagnosed at 45 and how did a diagnosis help?
Just wondering because I hear about the whole "it manifests differently for women" but never understand what that means in practice, or in what ways it helps to have an official diagnosis.
Autism "manifests" differently for all people who are labelled with this LABEL.
that is why its is called a "Spectrum" of disorders. I met many people who are NOT labelled with an AUtism label, and many of those so called normal beings have some weird and wonderful characteristics' that can be offensive and off putting. Those people are just plain rude and poorly raised.
exactly what I was thinking... a full circle irony possibly
The incidence of autism in "developed" (ha!) countries today is probably higher than one in fifty, and the number is continuing to increase. But I'd say this phenomenon is a caused by pure, unalloyed evil, and is not related to Greek tragedy.
Its 1 in 42 in the USA acceding to Robert F Kennedy Jnr - and still increasing with all the Jabs, vaccinations of babies - a number f babies DIE from the huge number of Vaccines given -esp.,in the USA. I am NOT A Yank.
I think saying "no empathy" is too much shorthand. In my view they are genuinely baffled by the intricacies of human emotions and the nuances of every interaction. Genuinely evil people are more "normal;" they deliberately turn away from right action. These guys are on a separate path and they can't understand the problem and why nobody understands them...
quite often "they" can and do understand but do not have the speech capcacitiees to ARTICULATE their emotions. But they feel deeply and do not like emotional situations as the cannot answer therefore it is whipping up emotion within them, and adding to their frustrations so they turn away from that situation. They process it a bit slower than others and having said that I have met plenty of sio-called normal peole who are ver, very inadequate in emotional situations !!! and physcially can lash out in their frustrations - i.e. they end up in jail, or are inadequate in marriages or other scenarios.
Can we please stop with the "autistic people don't have empathy" crap? Me and my two boys are autistic and I can tell you that is not true. Autistic people are individuals who share challenges around communication and social skills and that's it. Our personalities are different. I'm so sick of this lazy, nasty trope about Gates being autistic as if this explains all his bad points. It's deeply offensive and extremely simplistic. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Autism is not the same thing as sociopathy. Autists don't lack empathy. They just don't always understand what others are feeling as well as the neurotypical. The sociopath just doesn't care, even when they are aware that someone is suffering. They're very different. So I agree, it's unfair to suggest that Gates doesn't care about killing billions because he is autistic.
Autistic people generally show empathy differently to non Autistic people, and "normal" people don't understand our way of empathising. Typically. Yes, Gates is more likely a sociopath.
Disagree with the use of "more likely" and would replace with "absolutely, positively" instead.
agree
Great points. I wonder now, as I’m 52. If I am a bit autistic. How did you get diagnosed as an adult?
Thank you. I approached my GP. My youngest child was going through the assessment process and I realised that I was probably also autistic. I did the adult quotient test online and took the results along. If you're in the UK, the wait is lengthy can be 4 years due to funding. They will send you for mental health screening first, and if that is being impacted, you move up the queue a bit. Good luck!
Sociopath, Psychopath and criminal behaviours' are all on the same spectrum
True: if anything autistics are too empathic, but have an impaired ability to express it the noral way, meaning the brain locks up. Couple with less micro-signals facial expession, tone of voice, you know what I mean) this makes the person seem at times uncaring, and at other times much too agitated.
Learning how to process and expess emotion - /both/ spontaneous and in the society approved manner and form - should be key in any training regime for autisitics, really.
Disagree about facial expressions. Some of us have all our feelings on our faces. Everything. No poker faces here. And are capable of more than a monotone as well. And, I think you must be US based because we don't do "training" for autistic people in the UK on a large scale.
Not US, Sweden, actually.
To quote the web page Wrong Planet;
"If you've met one autistic person, you've met one autistic person."
Training social interaction is a must, if one is to be able to teach HFA students as I have done.
They must learn to accept human interaction the way it works and develop skills to maneuver around their stumbling blocks, and they mjst do it in a safe and controlled environment where a faux pas does not lead to bullying, shaming or ostracisation (as is too often the case in the school yard).
They must also accept that they have zero right to demand ithers not use certain words: no one has that right, period, end of. Equal treatment does not mean protection from things one does not approve of, simple as that.
As a Mother of a 51 year old Aspergers I agree with this comment. Further comment - MANY PEOPLE in society NEED TRAINING IN EMOTIONAL EXPRESSION!!!
I apologize. I did not mean to offend. You are right to call me out on that.
Nice that you apologized but this is quite the pot calling the kettle black episode. The person getting all upset regarding the lack of empathy comment then unloaded on you and finished with "you have no idea what you are talking about". Seems to me someone with empathy would have realized there was no offence intended rather than launching a personal attack. Physician, heal thyself.
I agree with your statements here Toffeepud - totally!! have you ever thought that your sons have LEARNT your behaviurs and coping skills and therefire they have the AUtistic l label (I Loathe labels) and rarely ever refer to my son with that Asoergers/Autism label. MOst people think he is huts a quiet type person whio is extremely interesting in his overwhelming knowledge of many areas,m and has a wonderful black sens eof humour as he sees so acutely other people emotinal fallibilities. I treasure him so so so very much. HIs determination and learnt resilience to matter that would flatten so called "normal" people is incredible.
Gates, Bezos and Zuckerberg are all on the spectrum. There is an interview with Bezos around 1999/2000 when Amazon was still just selling books and its quite obvious he's not quite "there". One can clearly see that there is some kind of emotional disconnect with Zuckerberg at any of his Senate hearing appearances.
Bill Gates's autistic tendencies were very likely caused by early childhood vaccines.
SOCIOPATHIC tendencies - a Father who was President of the local kill the population group? I think one needs to look closely at Gates Mother and Father
I refer you to the protagonist in Steve Martin's book "The Pleasure of my Company".
The only problem I have with it (based of my experience as a teacher of such students, some in the IQ 150+ range) is that one can't diagnose someone in that way and manner. this is a pet peeve of mine from my working days, being annoyed woth parents and colleagues depserat to explain a students misbehaviour or ther problems with the diagnosis a la mode at the time. I'd say 9/10 diagnosed with Asperger's/ADHD/ADD have degrees of the required behaviour but it is learned due to social-psychological circumstances, not neurological. But as the diagnosis is a 'Get out of responsibility'-card for parents, and means more money for the school (at least here), well... Maybe I'm just bitter?
Gates may well be what is now called HFA, with severely impaired or even non-existant instinct for social interaction, but without a formal and proper investigation and examination, it's just guesswork.
"Neurodiversity", eurgh. If anything, it just gives people with problems an excuse not to make themselves better. Like telling an alcoholic "oh, it's a disease, it's not your fault" -good luck quitting the bottle after that one.
Imagine applying that logic to diabetes and allergies.
They medicalized human variation.
Oh yes it's a money garden everywhere. Funny thing. One of my cousins has a now-nearly adult kid who very clearly does have what for short-hand we'll call autism, and school-year custody was mostly with her ex who is a "recovering alcoholic," and eventually moved to Sweden with the au pair (her native country) and insisted the services there for the child were far superior so again it's school-year custody. (I guess he must be aged out of custody agreements now and perhaps he's chosen to stay there. ) I myself believe the kid would thrive away from both parents. I found it quite painful, meeting the kid once here in the US when he was nearly 13, how common sense was entirely absent with the mom and maternal grandparents. Hoping the now-stepmom is a more sensible person.
I did have a part-time job once as a tour guide in an children's "farm" and we had many many extremely impaired children and adults visiting who fit the parameters for severe autism. The teachers/caregivers were almost universally incompetent. Very painful to see.
well said Rickard
I agree with you to a point. My frustration with what you said is that people, if they can, will do what they need to make themselves better. This type of problem, a mental difference, like depression, anxiety, autism, etc. is notoriously difficult to fix. Most try their entire lives and never really fix these problems. On your side of the argument, I'll agree that some of these problems are amenable to amelioration if some effort is expended. But real resolution of these types of problems remains elusive.
Almost everyone who hasn't had a perfectly blessed life struggles at one point or another with these challenges. But now, instead of a person feeling they must forge through the daunting obstacle, they take it as an identity and whine that the world, or the school, or the job, etc. etc. etc. must accommodate to their disability.
A physical disability that deprives a person of one or more of the senses that we all need to navigate through the world, or that cripples the body so that simple activities become extraordinary challenges, requires any civilized society to provide assistance with. But mental illnesses do not necessarily deprive someone of agency. Life is hard. For some it is harder than others. But if you've lost basic survival instincts and the drive to overcome, the world isn't responsible for your misery.
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It's not supposed to be fixed: the person is supposed to receive training as to be able to handle normal life. You can't fix autism anymore than you can fix me being a southpaw redhead.
It is the insistence that all of society contort to adapt to every single identitatrian characteristic no matter its source that is Hell on wheels for many disabled and others. The autistic savant stereotype means those that aren't HFAs feel doubly failed - the theories of inclusiveness and so on actually hurts them.
Think of it as basic: everyone must complete the track, do pick apart and reassemble, and so on. If you can't you get extra training, if you won't you're out. But no one should get to pass due to lowering the bar.
Would you like to go on a 747 with an autistic oilot with ADHD? Or would you like a screening and vetting process to make sure that such a person is on top of their problems, same as everyone else?
ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) is neither an indicator of brilliance, nor of intellectual limitation. From my own experience of it, the 2 variables seem to be quite independent. However, those who have ASD and high intellectual function do show specific cognitive qualities - i.e their intelligence manifests with particular quirks. The tendency to obsessive thought - tunnel vision - can be both good and bad, in this context.
OTOH, those with ASD and more limited intellectual capacity seem to suffer more than a normally stupid person - and in a position of power, cause more suffering to others.
As for Bill Gates, you can explain his social awkwardness, lack of empathy and lack of ability to consider a wider context by ASD. In his case, combined with limited intellectual capacity.
My understanding is that he was funded and supported by some powerful elites, probably because of his family background. The myth of Bill Gates as brilliant entrepreneur is just that, a myth. His business partner (who Gates stabbed in the back) provided the creative innovation, such as it was.
I also have a suspicion that Gates is a puppet, and is being manipulated by others behind the scenes with a very sinister agenda. Like Joe Biden & many others in power.
thats right - his business prowess is sa myth! read up on how IBM were persuaded by his socialite mother to help him set up Microsoft and he bought /poached another company's' software - sorry cannot remember the name of that softwarre company. THere is a video of a former high ranking IBM person who states that he thinks Gates is merely an opportunist not a brilliant talent.
BILLY GATES Is a PSYCHOPATH NOTHING to do with being AUTISTIC - that is an deep insult to genuinely autistic people, who are very sensitive people..
Since thsi started is has been obvious that there are many puppets who are expendable and Billy Boy is one of them. He learnt from the beginning to pay off and use other people. Mummy and his Daddy too appear to have the same trait.
briliant
Was about to comment on the main post: "I wonder if being on the spectrum has anything to do with it", but you beat me to it
It’s like the end the the TV show St. Elsewhere,we find out the entire show the imagination of a autistic boy looking at a snow globe,we are in Gate’s snow globe.
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100%
Gates isn't a "high functioning autistic". He's a dork. And a sociopathic dork at that.
Define "dork."
A socially inept asshole.
And why are dorks socially inept?
Why is anyone the way he or she is? Your question is unanswerable. Or it's too subtle or mysterious, well beyond the possibilities of this online discussion.
No, I'm asking for a definition of "dorkness." I think Gates' effect on the world is horrendous, and that human beings who aren't profoundly disabled are responsible for their choices, but I also do think Gates has a genuine inability to see outside of any but a seriously constrained line-of-sight. Miswired people are extremely dangerous when they have resources and power to do what they want, especially if they are unable to perceive nuance.
Evil, on the other hand, is a deliberate choice by those who understand wrongness and proceed anyway. It's not a state of being reserved only for sociopaths, who can exercise restraint but are uninterested in doing so.
Someone once said, “nothing is weird anymore”. That was even before this diversity nonsense took hold. Sorry, there is something called normal and abnormal.
as well as male/female right/wrong self-regulation vs blaming others
Oh thanks, thanks a lot.
Exactly. Watch any of his Microsoft depositions and one can clearly see he is on the spectrum. The rocking back and forth, the inability to conceptualize simple problems or scenarios, inappropriate laughing or smiling when asked stressful questions. Its all there.
Voice of Passion,
YOu appear to have watched Billy Bou at his cross examination by hte Gov't some years back. (don't know what the name of that INvestigation was - something to donwith his monopoly of the Tech world. He is an actor pure and simply and was putting on the mad tech head HAT to not answer questions. USA Lawyers "Coach" their CLients.......
THAT can be PSYCHOPATHIC behaviour and also Gates is a cunning A.......... so look very critically at his manifested behaviourSS . HE IS NOT AUTISTIC. He is a DORK and a very evil manipulative being. NOTE: I do NOT use the word HUMAN.
I have NEVER EVER thought of Billy Boy as being n AUtistic person - NEVER!! and I am more acquainted than many with knowledge of AUtism.
Billy BOy is simply a nasty manipulative NUT case who has turned his intelligence to his Fathers and MOthers pet passion - exterminating the human race as they think they are superior beings - what a joe! PSCYCOPATHS no 1 aim is " TO WIN AT ALL COSTS" money comes fter that PSYCOPATHS nO1 RULE on THEIR AGENDA. they never let anyone know of their AGENDA - ANYONE. though these psycopaths have found their home in SCHWABS Davos nest.
Its on the spectrum clearly.
No I'm sorry, the problem with people like Gates is they are surrounded by yes men. That's it. Autistic people are not the root of society problems. Really offensive.
Just because you are autistic, idiot-savant, Downs Syndrome etc, however seemingly inspired your utterances/actions are, it does not make you a paragon of wisdom. It also does not automatically let you occupy a special place in the intellectual community.
It doesn't give you the right to be abusive or vile towards us either. And I never said it did. The term idiot savant btw went out with the Ark. Mind your language.
Do you want equal treatment? Or do you want discrimination? Pick one. Equal treatment means not being tone/speech police: we all have labels applied to us all the time. Autistic, as in having a cognitive defect of the brain to the point it affects daily life and interaction, is one such label. It is not a value judgement netiher positive nor negative.
And the vast majority of people with autism, ADHD, ADD etc. have normal to lower than normal intelligence. A tiny percentage, if it's even 1% have the right combination of factors to be able to use theuir disabilities to their advantage - to use this not representative minority as the face of the category as a whole is disingenious and hurts thise people who needs help with their daily life.
You can easily compare it to the similar pattern in the letterbox of sexual orinetation-movement, feminism, racial segregation movement (ACLU BLM, Antifa, other racist organisations) - a select little group make themselves the face and spokesperson for the whole, unelected, "for the greater good". The result?
A change in societal evaluation of ability leading to a lessening of tolerance, aid and understanding and marking the group as a whole as something they are not, making the stigma of belonging to the group doubly bad.
You have the same choice as feminists: either the privilege of being a woman, or equal treatment with men, f.e. as regards to physical demands, fighting talk, etc.
Pick one.
Just a level playing field actually. And your assessment of autism and the capabilities of us, is incorrect btw. I'm asking people to stop diagnosing bill Gates as autistic and using that trait as an explanation for his wickedness.
HEAR HEAR - a reasonable request and a very ACCURATE observation / REQUEST
"To use this not representative minority as the face of the category as whole is disingenuous." Yes, 1000%. I also struggle with those who can clearly advocate for themselves as the spokespeople for autism. Again, those that can function as adults, regardless of how they've had to suppress behavior or work harder to adapt, do not get to speak for my kids who will never have a shot at anything resembling a normal life. And I don't care what normal is, really. I've finally started to admit to myself that I need to prepare to have adult children with me forever. That used to be rare. It is no longer rare.
Totally agree. Here in NZ, people with physical disabilities advocated strongly for the closure of 'sheltered workshops' as they said it was unfair that people working there did not get regular wages. So they were closed down meaning many people with cognitive impairments etc now have nowhere to go during the day and parents/families do not get time away from their responsibilities. I hope where ever you are that you are getting the love and support you need.
I like the term "idiot savant." I have a sister who is theoretically very intelligent, but who is in fact a Kool-Aid-drinking, Covid Cult die-hard True Believer. She has an undergraduate degree in Molecular Biology from Harvard, as well as a Master's of Science degree in Electrical Engineering from MIT. I consider her to be among the vast throngs of idiot savants, those "exceptionally highly educated" people who think they are extremely intelligent, but who are in fact stupid beyond belief. She is not only incapable of scientific independent thinking, she is completely spiritually ignorant. People like her are dangerous. Unfortunately, there are millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions, of people like her among us. These are the monsters who control our societies.
Education and degrees have zero correlation with wisdom.
Absolutely true.
Alan Segal - Agree with you on your statement above.......add....
AND emotional INTELLIGENCE QOTIENT
AN ABSOLUTELY "SPOT ON" observation. and I can back up my statement with much EVIDENCE.
or as I have told people that we have now educated people whose parents/family members/ historically did not obtain a Degree - and they think that knowledge in one area of life makes them complete and superior as a person.
I told my children that a Degree merely gives you a foot over the starting line of life, but many who are highly motivated shall fly past you in chasing their goals in life. That a Degree should stimulate you to critical thinking and a n awareness that there is so much to learn in and experience in life. They wre raised to contribute to society not be total consumers at others expense - sadly we are going through Psychopaths "heaven" aided by technology and so much else that is out of balance, caused by humans that have NO CONCSCIENCE NO EMPATHY ETC., read PSYCHOPATHS
Re the terminology: So hard to keep up. Changes so often but means the same. Enlighten me, what is it called now?
Enlighten yourself.
You Alan Segal appear to be part of the Psychopathic world, to make such inhuman insensitive comments. Toffeepud is having the courage to try to make known to the best of her knowledge the world that an Autistic person experiences, and its different for all Autistic people - the same as for the so -called "normal" - we all have different experiences and ways of telling it.
You come across like so many of these Fact finders and similar ilk, i.e. be a bully boy - like some kid in the playground , call someone better than you by derogatory names!! to try to diminish them.
Like many people with PhDs at present who demean their own professional persons who stand upo and are counted in this EVIL SLIME Level that the Faucis and medical board members and so many other so called responsiuble people who have clearly been corrupted i.e. "paid off puppets" who destroy their colleagues careers and so much more.
CHEAP!! CHEAP!! cHEAP!1 PATHETIC CHILDISH BEHAVIOURS!!
give me an AUTISTIC person anyday, they see BLACK AND WHITE and are so relaible and decent comapred to your ilk ALAN SEGAL.
You don't know me and have made a false allegation to put it mildly. There is a tendency now to think of some people outside the norm as having magical insight into the worlds problems. Sorry, I don't buy it. Nothing against them as human beings, they should live and be well. But wisdom is a trait bestowed on people who have proven that their abilities actually work in practice for the betterment of mankind, by taking knowledge and applying it rationally. It is for this reason scientists, billionaires and other "experts" don't make good public policy (Fauci et al). All decisions come with costs. Wisdom is the ability to make those decisions causing the least harm.
AUTISTIC PEOPLE ARE NOT EVIL. PSYCHOPATHS/SOCIOPATHS actively try to mould society to their wishes / AGENDAs. They think that they are ALWAYS RIGHT!!
PLAYING GAMES WITH HUMAN BEINGS IS PART AND PARCEL OF THEIR ROUTNE BEHAVIOUR - THEY ARE EMOTIONALLY CHILDISH/WARPED SINCE LITTLE.
Bill Gates isn't autistic you retard. Becoming rich requires social skills.
So I guess you aren't rich, then...
Hmm lets see - Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates and Musk are all on the spectrum. There are various degrees of autism Sparky.
"Retard" is a very offense in 2022 - but keep going, its a good look for you.
If there is a "hypernormie" left alive anywhere, please show me this zoological specimen...
Unless of course you mean by that the obsessive neurotics who make up the professional class of society these days. Because they seem to have colonized the landscape and driven out the heirloom species...
Psychopaths adn that ilk are way beyond the label of a Neurotic which means an inappropriate emotional response. These Sociopaths etc., have a very distinct reactions in their behaviours. Lying in one of them and constantly changing their responses to whatever best suites their purposes. Autism stay firm in their assessments.
Look at the current changing comments from these WEF, Gates, Fauci and others, they intertwine facts with their weird interpreations so causung the majority to believe what they come out with as these people love power/control./manipulation and say whatever to keep that control/manipuation ...... and being in positions of power that holds the public captive too. esp., those who do not resaerch nor do critical thinking..
I read the book very carefully. My conclusion is that Gates is in a bubble or probably better said, an echo chamber, and that he has been influenced and guided by a small group of progressive globalists who have convinced him (not hard to do) that their vision is the one to embrace. He is not well-educated or well-rounded socially or emotionally. I don't think he is evil, just limited in his thinking and intellect. He thinks he is doing the right thing. If he didn't have his billions to make this vision into a reality, it would just be sad and pathetic, instead of dangerous to us all.
A limited intellect existing in a self-chosen echo chamber coupled with massive hubris and billions of dollars that empowers it to impose its catastophic errors on humanity is not "pathetic". It is a criminally insane. These do-gooder destroyers of humanity alwyas plead - after the fact - "But I didn't know!" That is no defense. If you didn't know then why did you act? And why did you execute your actions with such moralistic and hubristic certainty? You acted as if you knew "for sure" while you were doing it, and while you were categorically rejecting any evidence or suggestion you were doing harm not good. I have no sympathy for people driven by their hubris to plague humanity.
Evil is as evil does. A wise person would shut up and listen to real, informed debate.
A man like him having so much money is dangerous .
AGREED, but its An unbelievably CORRUPTED strata of society
they do know, BuT THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT in their minds.
I also don't think Gates is evil. I actually agree with him on some issues, such as school choice. But the fact that he wants to do good is almost more concerning to me than if he had nefarious plans. The quote from C.S. Lewis comes to mind:
"It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
Mengele the Nazi thought he was doing good also. We all know how that turned out.
If we could send Gates on vacation to India ,he may never come back .
PLEASE !! PLEASE tell the pilot to GO TO/ INDIA, TAKING BIlly Boy Gates who has been sentenced to DEATH for his Crimes in that Country.
it's the religious sprit and hypocrite attitude....caused by arrogance and pride...ppl are blinded by their own arrogance to their own peril. Arrogant ppl trust and believe in other arrogant ppl, never a good outcome. Why 50+ percent of the world just allowed themselves to possibly be injured by the jabs and followed the 'science' (stupidity) insane masks/lockdowns of narcissistic pedophiles who enjoyed inflicting harm and controlling others...typical satanic response. WE WERE ALL DUPED by evil ppl. Unfortunately we forget easily.
I think Gates is evil, but simply an Aspergers type evil. Just because he has a “good” intention for his misdeeds doesn’t make him any less worthy of the label. Evil is a strange concept with religious connotations that suggests a need for a particular species of motivation, but I think the real proof is in the results of their consistent actions.
I agree, Miami. The outcomes are the realities. The intentions are the expected realities. When you do something that, to a "normally intellignet person", will generate a bad outcome, you are guilty of a criminal act for producing that outcome. It doesn't matter what you "thought" would happen. It matters what actually happened as a result of your actions. I don't remember which of Kurt Vonnegut's characters had fired a rifle in celebration of something, and the bullet killed somebody. The rifleman didn't "intend" to kill anybody. But that is no consolation to the dead person or their family. Consequences count. Intentions are irrelevant, when it should be obvious to the actor that the possible consequences re dire to other people or to humanity as a whole.
Yes, I cannot believe that the USA has all these nutters and NONE has been arrested for Trial??? talk about CORRUPTION ..
Sincerely and absolutely DOUBT that BILLY BOY Is Aspergers anything on the Autism Spectrum!!
Yes, a PSYCHOPATH - SO MANY SIGNS & SYMPTOMS OF THAT CONDTION IN BILLY BOY GATES.
The road to hell, etc.
My favorite saying
A college dropout (ordinarily not a bad thing), who doesn't know what he doesn't know, and has no respect for the hard work necessary to accumulate real understanding of complex systems. Much like the bureaucrats he idolizes. Arrogance, but with the money and influence to be dangerous. He's also unilaterally trying to block out the sun with a chalk release into the mesosphere, no discussion, no debate, no idea what the real consequence. Terrifying.
High IQ / Low EQ?
IQ quantifies abstract reasoning ability, not acquired wisdom. One without the other can be hazardous for the user and those around him.
Billy Boy as a true Psycohopath is fulfilling those evil needs and I agree has no idea that he is such a %^&*().
to MANIPULATE, CONTROL and PLAY CHILDISH GAMES IS PART OF THEIR AGENDA (internal agenda) and they think they are ALWAYS RIGHT, and BLAME EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT THEMSELVES. Signs & Symptoms of a classic PsychoPATH.
What constantly eludes these freaks is that for all their talk of good, innovation, global health, cooperation and so on, he never ever explains that the only way this works is IF YOU FORCE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT YOU SAY AT ALL TIMES
Masks? Forced
Lockdowns and closures? Forced
Capacity limits? Forced
Testing? Forced
Vaccination? Forced
There is, lets say, a marginal cost to this life of medical authoritarianism. Does the benefit outweigh the cost?
I present Exhibit A - Shanghai 2022. Every single person out there - Gates included - who has backed the zerocovid insanity and containment measures - can have a good look at what the natural extension of their ideas and policies is.
I am looking day in and out for ways to do more - but I really am short of ideas
These people must be stopped at all costs.
The last sentence of your comment…PERIOD.
The majority agree with you, but NOW its no longer time to chat away on these sites (to make money for others) its time for each individual to actively INVOLVE themselves in their communties et., in whatever way they can contribute to bring these Elite CRIMINALS to JUSTICE.
ONe way is to continuously write/inform your so called politicians that you are not supporting them unless they change legislation. DO NOT WAIT for the mext election as this AGENDA is rapidly being instituted in the World and these Criminals count on the people doing the "DECENT THING". NO MORE!! fight fire with FIRE and smarter.
I did do deep research since early March 2020 - voluntarily-to assist a group, but now they are on the path and do have paid staff that is no longer overwhelmed with what this is all about and have reliable info sites, that writing sometimes to these blog sites as I do have knowledgevand experiences. But I m not here to line another persons pockets with my hard won experience and knowledge, and NOW more than ever its a necessity to be active in a braoder sense as this hundreds of years old depopulation is beign so rapdily rolled out, and i am not just referring to the QR identifiers on those that had hte Jabs, nor the QR in the WHATS APP that many peoplehave no idea of what using WHATS APP is doing to them.
This needs posters on Community BOards and leaflets/newsletter etc., in ones local COmmunity and the broader Community. Delcately handled conversations to inform others who still follow the mantras as they have been so dumbed down for many years and still cannot "swallow" that ALL Levels of society/business have been CORRUPTED, so much so that its now institutional in Medical areas etc.,
Get people to SUPPORT Dr Trozzi in Canada (a former 25 years Emergency Doctor and more, who has sold his home and still has family to raise and yet he is volunterring so much of his expertise and full time to eradicating this Evil from peoples lives, he is also on the World Council for Health, a VOLUNTARY BOard trying to present n open and hoinest parallel option to the WHO & the CEO former Warlord (Tedros G....NOT a Dr) and does so much else.
JOIN the World Council For HEALTH. Support them in whatever way you can. as WHO is trying to TAKE OVER every Countrys; Health Departments. Remember GATES is the 2nd largest Donor to this United Nations that is linked and many other nefarious groups are linked to WHO.
That's a bonus, right? It isn't like he spent his entire professional life bossing people into his mediocrity or anything.
wasn't it part of a Moderna (Bill Gates) patented component that made it's way mysteriously into COVID19!!!!!!! Here's how to prevent the next pandemic. destroy Moderna!! How about this one Bill....make everyone, everywhere in the world that enters/exits a Level 4 biolab subject to 8 weeks of quarantine when they exit!!!
YES!!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Firstly, gates didn't write one line of code. He stole it from Paul Allen and then marketed it without much competition. Secondly, being a billionaire means nothing as far having brains or ability or truly caring about humanity. I think billy hates that humanity is stealing his planetary resources, an idea he got from his leftist father.
So, humanity has to go. And since he is beyond arrogant, why not rape the planet for more wealth as he is murdering off its inhabitants? He is a true leftist scumbag because everywhere he goes, people suffer and die.
Gates has created software independently and in conjunction with Allen, so "didn't write one line of code" is a bit unfair. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_BASIC. But Gates showed his real skill in screwing Ed Roberts (Dr, RIP) who brought Microsoft into the world. Extending that version of Basic into later instances probably didn't involve much of Gates as a creator but more the business person who became even better at screwing others.
I doubt Gates was ever motivated by money so much as he was motivated with domination over a business area. I suspect any caring about people was imparted to him by his wife, maybe his children. His concern about humanity seems only through her.
The nerd's revenge.
Disclaimer: I'm a nerd too. But I don't feel compelled to take over the world.
We all know what needs to happen....on a good day, with the right conditions and personnel, it can be accomplished from a mile away
I don't understand how it hasn't happened to a single one of these evil megalomaniacs. Sigh.
"He could retire to a tropical island with his favourite mind-altering substances and a harem of nubile young women"
Called Epstein Island. Billy the Weirdo a regular there we gather, indeed, his association with the Paedo Master was it seems why his wife left him (well, you would, wouldn't you?)
Apart from that he's a weapons grade sociopath.
Thank you for taking this one for the team. Fascinating insights into his character. These people must be relieved of their power so they stop feeling the need to use it.
So much bizarre about Gates and the rest of transhumance tech boomers.They stripped away God and replaced him (or her Sophia maybe) with a bunch of post Age of Aquarius California nonsense.Whole Tech-World based in USA Northwest is one big cult ,add people like Marina Abramovic (who was 1st celebrity in muh Ukraine video) and Epstein and you get a guy in Gates who could be blackmailed,could be some super narcissistic man child wanted to be the autistic overlord of humanity or something worse.Howard Hughes was such a better billionaire,went insane but lockdowned himself and created a medical foundation to get around government taxes.We got the Anti-Hughes who became government and probably makes Hughes look completely sane in comparison.
A somewhat strange drive into Gates https://youtu.be/1roOtZ7eIUg
Pretty weird. Yikes. When all's said and done, he's a rich, stupid creep.
Thanks for your comment which encouraged me to do an internet search for Hughes as it sparked my memory from when he was still around. He is so much more interesting than Gates and actually did things. Couldn't help having a chuckle that (according to Wiki) Terry Moore on the back of a memoir and nil evidence managed to squeeze some loot out of his estate in 1984. Only in America!
Watch the movie “The Aviator” very good film and it starts with a young Hughes being pestered by his mother over a contagious virus,he is forced to spell out  “quarantine” ,very spooky in light of 2020.
Is this the one from 2004 with Leonardo di Caprio? Will check it out. Have to say, Hughes was one attractive man! (Much more so than di Caprio)
Yes ,excellent movie and shows you how the government tried to bully him .Hughes was a genius of the rare type ,maybe Elon Musk will follow in his footsteps without the psychological problems that hindered Hughes.
It's some amount of moral vanity, but it's also a great way to get richer. He personally buys stock in a company, then he uses his foundation's money to fund research at the company, leams on friends (WHO, Fauci, etc.) to get governments to fund that company's work with taxpayers' money, and presto! He's even richer. Asking why Bill Gates does what he does is like asking why Paul Offit votes Yes for every vaccine: because he has a financial stake in the outcome.
Both men, I think, also subscribe to an "ends justify the means" philosophy, although I think Gates is OK with a much higher collateral damage figure than Offit is. Morally, though, it's a similar position. They have a calculator where another person's conscience is.
If you look at the whole "own nothing and be happy" crowd,.they all want a world in which most people rent damned near everything... from them. I don't get why you find this hard to believe: that very wealthy people want to become wealthier and exclude the masses from all the nice stuff. Like a gated community, but (1) everywhere and everything and (2) people outside the gates are paying rent to people inside.
You and I don't want to control others or make them into our serfs, but we're also not (for example) child molesters. There is no reason to think that what makes Gates happy (more money than he could ever spend, and control of other people) is any more normal than what makes a child molester happy.
And the money is in everything. Remote school means no textbools, just subscriptioms to online cr*p, all.of which are renewed annually at great cost to the taxpayer.
Bill Gates is nouveau riche. He says that we haven't seen the worst of Covid. I would say we haven't seen the worst of Bill Gates.
Long Gates?
Re: “It’s hard to imagine that Gates has ever even seen Ferguson’s paper.”
Neil Ferguson et al’s Report 9 recommended ‘suppression’ of the virus “until a vaccine becomes available…”: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/covid-19/report-9-impact-of-npis-on-covid-19/
It wasn’t disclosed in Report 9 that Neil Ferguson is funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. I suspect Bill Gates was very aware of Ferguson et al’s report…
Ferguson is a member of SAGE, the UK group which was so influential on the Covid-19 response. In November 2020 I submitted a rapid response to The BMJ (The British Medical Journal), see: Who are the members of SAGE? There must be transparency and accountability for coronavirus policy: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4235/rr-1
Subsequently, in December 2020, The BMJ published the article: Covid-19: SAGE members’ interests published by government 10 months into pandemic: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4911
This article includes a link to the SAGE covid-19 register of participants’ interests. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/943607/Covid-19_SAGE_register_of_participants__interests_v2.pdf
This document notes, among other disclosures, that Neil Ferguson is Principal Investigator, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance grant – Vaccine Impact Modelling Consortium.
Ferguson et al’s Report 9 did not clearly disclose conflicts of interest - Ferguson’s association with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation should have been disclosed.
We have to find a way of limiting (if not completely removing) the ability of single person (been s/he billionaire or celebrity - aka weirdos) to affect billions of people lives because these individuals are usually outliers and don't even understand the every day life of an ordinary person. Let them enjoy their money and fame IN PRIVATE and leave the rest of us alone
We need to decentralize. Everything.
D'accord, Monsieur Bastiat.
you said it!!! Amen!!
in other news, is getting blatantly obvious these so-called vaxx are poison ...
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-limits-jjs-covid-19-vaccine-over-blood-clot-risk
Whatever Gates' motivations may be, the major lesson I've learned from the pandemic is that gun ownership is really, REALLY important. I used to believe guns should be illegal, but now I think the only way this sort of overbearing technocratic totalitarianism is going to be brought to heel is if governments live in fear of their citizens.
My kids are gonna grow up knowing how to shoot, and knowing how important is is that they be capable of violence.
Bret Weinstein went through the same epiphany. He wrote an excellent article entitled “The liberal case for 2A”.
What use is a gun against the ring of security a government can throw around itself at a moment's notice? What use is a gun against a tank?
The goal isn’t to win a pitched battle. Small arms lose.
The idea is to make continuation in the same way as oppressing an unarmed population unfeasible.
How will they disarm the population?