“China prepares for new wave of Covid cases from XBB variants”, screams the Washington Post. “New Covid variant in China could infect 65 million people a week from June”, proclaims The Independent. “40 Million Infections per Week”, hyperventilates Welt
I can't help wondering how obvious interactions between various viruses through history might have been, had we been as fixated on testing as Covid made us.
When talking to friends my current favorite phrase is "compared to what?". People died of influenza every year. Hospitals were overrun during flu season, but that wasn't news. People would get colds several times a year and that wasn't news.
My favorite moment during the Coronadoom kerfuffle came in the spring of 2021 when the Seattle Times breathlessly announced that cases of the flu were WAAAAYYYY down during the previous flu season! Apparently, it never occurred to them that because the hospitals (for profit institutions) were not getting paid by the gov't for each case of the flu but were instead Making Major Bank for each Covid case, every case of the flu magically became a Covid case!
If the government reimbursement for elevated PCR tests ( never meant as a diagnostic tool)evaporated it would have been “Opposite Day “in the HMO accounting departments. Because of the covid jab scam a terrible blow has been struck against our previous belief in the healthcare system in the USA and the world. The good news is the exposure of big Pharma / globalists capturing our regulatory ( government)institutions and the industrialization of health care impedes the implementation of the elites next health scare.Damn every single one of these wanna be godlike elites and their minions to eternal Hell, they have earned it.
Interesting consideration. So if flu goes down when covid goes up, is it because the covid virus suppresses the flu virus, or is it because covid is more profitable to the hospitals, and so they classify all cases of flu as covid?
Viral interference has been researched for many many years (pre-covid). It's notable that throughout the history of tracking respiratory illnesses, prior to the covid era anyways, co-infections were rare and usually only one dominant virus was circulating at a time. Even for flu, usually it's one dominant type of flu at a time and then when that type collapses, the next type moves in to a different cohort of vulnerable individuals.
There is nothing unique about any of the corona viruses or the flu or rsv or parainfluenza etc etc. Those who are near end of life or vulnerable are susceptible to whatever the first virus or bacteria it is that gets them.
Thank you for the voice of reason; many things in the world are matters of degree, shades of gray, etc. Especially with complex systems, there must be dozens of factors, perhaps more, always in operation. But the crowd prefers easy to understand simple concepts. This is of course exploited by the unscrupulous. For example: Did you ever tell an off-color ethnic joke in your life? Well, shame on you! Clearly you are a racist and a white supremacist, to be lumped in the same category as (say) the men who were the directors of the extermination camps during WW II. I'm exaggerating here, but only a bit.
Not just the flu, but viral pneumonia, TB, bronchitis, COPD, etc. All of 'em all but disappeared entirely.
The entire thing was a hoax straight out of the gate for anyone that didn't jump around with their hair on fire, remained calm, and did just a little bit of research.
EVENT201 was known, so was SPARS, Clade-X, and of course videos were out from a year prior of the Global Vaccine Summit where the perps were talking about how the popularity of vaccines was dropping and "what to do about it."
Not to mention knowing full well that the perps want us dead, to save the planet of course, not that they'd lead by example, ... at least willingly.
In late '20, my husband got C0VID which turned into pneumonia. Had to go to the hospital. Diagnosed with "C0VID pneumonia." You know, gov $$$$ for C0VID.
If only they could somehow make everything C0VID... C0VID STDs, C0VID depression, C0VID overdoses, C0VID broken arms...
The money factor was a prime driver: As others note, any diagnosis of "Covid", however tenuous, generated instant money from Uncle Sam. But don't forget that most, if not all, of the emergency treatments were under EUA and similar laws that absolved the hospital (indeed nearly the whole supply chain) of any liability. Add to this that the government mandated only certain treatment (e.g. remdesivir).
Under this regime, can you imagine any administrator allowing the use of off-label drugs to treat a patient presenting with Covid symtoms? They'd have virtually no profit and all sorts of liability risks, including failing to follow recommended protocols.
The medical system is corrupt from top to bottom. At a personal level, I recommend you minimize your use of it to the minimum possible.
The money (mammon) is what DROVE fellow Americans to kill other Americans. Doctors, nurses, and pols were particularly complicit.
But the reasons behind it by those that designed the PSYOP19 program, have death (lots of it, as in the hundreds of millions or even billions over time) and control as their primary goals.
The medical system is corrupt as you stated, but what troubles me is how many Americans are back to their leisure activities as if nothing significant is going to change anytime soon. FedNow begins in earnest in just over a month. I'm sure that there will be enticements to get people to convert to it, entirely. Not sure how long it will take for them to begin the next PSYOP which we're promised will be far worse than the first one, in order to get full compliance there.
People should be researching this and trying to defend against converting to it. Instead, they simply continue on their ignorance-is-bliss merry path of leisure and entertainment as if nothing is fishy.
We are so screwed. Anyone that has not made preparations, personal or otherwise, and I'm not talking about their finances here, is foolish.
We're in the fight of our lives and most of us are clueless.
"We're in the fight of your lives and most of us are clueless." Yep. But, I think it's always been that way throughout history. Only 8 people made it onto Noah's ark.............
Most flu 'season' data are not even based on empirical evidence -- they're imputed statistics using essentially imputed data from previous seasons, rather than actual inputs.
As we know all whyrusses come from china .The latest sub variant is called the sweet and sour whyruss .It originates in the yellow sea and it jumps from walrusses to chines take out food .
I am struggling to think of a reason why. It's common for a viral flu (or covid) to lead to bacterial pneumonia, I assume because the immune system is weakened by fighting the former. So why would one virus out compete another.
There are serious articles about this. Eugyppius has written about it, also Unglossed substack. Immune system is complex, so trying to apply common sense or logic to understanding it doesn't usually work.
It's partially due to the PHE repeatedly labelling this SARS-Cov2 as a 'novel' virus as if somehow it doesn't share a huge amount of proteins with other coronaviruses as well as many other viruses. Immunity to those shared proteins through recognition and destruction of infected cells by innate and secretory IgA mechanisms is what has evolved to keep humans going with a sniffle or a fever here or there.
I recommend that anybody on here who gets the flu this year also, take a Covid test at the same time to see what happens. I bet it might be one in the same!
From 2018, hospitals treating patients in tents. We build a load of emergency hospitals around the world and as far as I am aware the vast majority went unused.
Off topic - or exactly on topic - this might be the best summary of key events of the last three years I've read yet. It's 22,000 words - divided into five sections (Iatrogenic deaths, lockdowns, masks, etc.) It's very impressive to me. It might take you an hour, but I hope many serious students of Covid subjects take the time to read it. It was written by authors in the Isle of Man of all places.
Thank you for the link. I agree that it might just be the best article written about this Covid horror show. It both broke my heart and made me angry about the treatment of the elderly. It has always been a distressing sight to see our vulnerable elders treated with such contempt and abandonment - even prior to the virus. So many of us have promised to ourselves that we wouldn’t allow our elders to suffer such indignity. Fortunately, my mother and father died well before the introduction of the virus. I say fortunately because I would have broken down doors to be able to see either of them. I would not have backed down quietly.
I had a brother-in-law who died because of cancer (not the virus) using at home hospice care which was sparse at best and then given last rites OVER THE PHONE. How hypocritical is a priest who is afraid to die! My late, unvaccinated cousin contracted the virus, was given two courses of Remdesivir, then ventilation all while his wife pleaded with them to use a different protocol. Others who subjected themselves to the shots got ugly and debilitating injuries and who now admit that they got it wrong but are handicapped with illnesses that take a large chunk of their treasury.
The world went mad! It seemed as if people lost their minds and were under the spell of evil. There was no other logical explanation to me.
Thanks for the feedback. I agree the anecdotes about the "abuse" of the isolated elderly are probably the most powerful and maddening parts of the document.
As I wrote about many times before ,my brother was murdered in a hospital with deadly treatment protocols .He went in there with a flu .I believe most readers know by now ,that the lethal treatment for money goes on in all hospitals .
So sorry about your brother. :-( I lost my own brother to a motorcycle accident in early 2019. It's messed up that I'm "grateful" he was killed doing something he loved, by pure chance, than being killed by the "healthcare" industrial complex.
I too have that thought. I lost my Dad in 2018 & my boyfriend (a fairytale story you wouldn't believe is actually true) in 2019. They wouldn't have survived this assault.
My heart is so broken over all the people who've been hurt...
Thank you for including the google docs link in your comment. Very interesting. For starters, I read Intro, About, and Conclusion; found it very interesting and affirming of some of my thoughts. Have saved link to read more later. Excellent read.
Ich haette "ist ein feiges Ding" schreiben sollen, but I thought I would mix up Englisch and German or follow the recently established tradition of Denglisch for the sake of most readers. This is a play on Feigl-Ding's name; I am saying "Eric is a cowardly thing." I think that all the evidence supports this.
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While it's hardly a catastrophe, it is true that some new Omicron variant has swept through China over the past several weeks. Our entire family got it, as did many friends and colleagues.
For those whose previous infection was back in the spring of 2022, the symptoms (39C fever, nasty sore throat, then coughing) are overall quite similar, though with the addition of diarrhea in many cases. By contrast, those who went through an infection in Dec 2022 have for the most part had no fever and few symptoms.
Today I was in a hospital and there were still plenty of people without masks. From that I think we can deduce that the level of fear is for the most part non-existent.
Of course no doubt many in the West will claim it's just the flu. Yet even if we did not have the antigen test results (whose results are both reliable and reproducible starting approximately 2 days after infection), we would know it isn't "the flu" (感冒). Why? Because flu treatments don't bring any relief, whereas covid-specific treatments (e.g. HCQ/zinc/ivermectin) do.
I beg to differ, albeit respectfully of course. I have treated Covid the two times I have had it with the following: NAC (N-acetyl cysteine), Nattokinase and serrapetase, Quercetin, zinc, vitamins D and C, and colloidal silver. Other than the Nattokinase and serrapeptase (which I use to combat the spike protein), I would use these in the treatment of a flu or bad cold and indeed have done so with success. Things seem right as rain within a matter of days to a week's time, though there has occasionally been a lingering cough. I used to treat my body terribly (drinking, smoking, no exercise, poor eating habits, etc.). Since the summer of 2019, though, I have worked hard to be in relatively good health. Perhaps the last thing is the most relevant factor here.
But why? I got Covid last year and I didn't use anything besides some Ibuprofen for my minor headache and some booze for general disease management. Symptoms were mild and gone within three days.
This is the root of my skepticism about Covid treatments. For the vast majority of the population, even Delta Covid was not very harmful, let alone deadly. So when someone like, for example, Joe Rogan, who is an actual athlete and therefore much healthier than most people, declares he licked Covid with ivermectin, I wonder why we assume ivermectin had anything to do with it.
Now people I respect like Bret Weinstein have done the deep dives and concluded treatments like ivermectin apparently have some salutatory effect. But at the same time I still think the jury is still out: most people will and have got through Covid just fine without any treatment at all. The question remains, does early treatment work for people who are at high risk of disease? Anecdotes like Joe Rogan's don't help answer that question.
Of course, that's no reason to vilify advocates of early treatment, as continues to happen in the West.
Dr. Kory's new book on ivermectin, to be released on June 6, the anniversary of D Day, the day of the Normandy Invasion. The once reputable and journalistic (and not infopharmatainment whore) BBC sent messages to the maquis of the French Resistance by reading lines of Mallarme, to signal them to sabotage the Nazis on that day. The graveyards of the south of France are filled with the bodies of young men who died on that day. I think the confluence of anniversaries is significant.
It was Dr. Kory on DarkHorse with Bret Weinstein, two long centuries ago now, that redpilled me. The equator has unbound every day since then, coiled like a cotton mouth, and tectonic shifts of totalitarianism have split the cosmos every second.
Might be more in there on ivm for you, and he and his co-author write colloquially and captivatingly.
The only treatment for the common cold (coronoviruses) is time. You have to endure your symptoms for the length of time required for immunity until the next common cold comes around. Such is human life. Of course you can take sleep, chicken soup, orange juice, cough drops, aspirin, or anything else to mitigate/dull the symptoms if you like, but time is the only thing to make it go away eventually. 3 days coming, 3 days with, 3 days going. The common cold shots DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but poison you.
IIRC, he never once said he "licked covid with ivermectin", he said he threw a ton of different stuff at it. It was only after the 'experts' started saying he took horsepaste that he stood up and was like WTF this is a human medicine.
That sounds like what I had, twice, a few months apart, in 2020. Headache, lethargy, and a very slight sore throat, all disappearing rather abruptly in a bit over two days. I took no medication at all, aside from a lot of sleep.
And no coughing, sneezing, or runny nose, and certainly no difficulty with breathing.
One thing that stood out as odd to me was that the headache, which had stayed constant for about two days, receded rather suddenly over the course of about an hour. In both cases, I had the thing over the weekend, and in both cases I think it went away between about 4 and 5 o'clock on Sunday afternoon, and I felt fine and was ready to eat and read again. Did you notice anything similar to that in your case?
If our experience in China is any guide, this hints that you probably had a prior infection at some point. The reason why so many people got so ill in December 2022 in China was because it was the first infection for all those people. This was only possible because the Chinese efforts to prevent transmission by means of relentless mass testing and lockdowns did enjoy a modicum of "success" for a time, despite ultimately being a failure and coming at an unfathomably high price for society.
Early on, they talked about blood types. A seems to have it the worst, AB/ B tend to have less extreme illness, an O rarely gets it. Is that true? Not really sure. Not sure about a lot of things.
I am blood type 0 and I rarely get sick at all, even when everyone around me is quite sick.
However, I suffer from autoimmune type issues, my joints, tendons and my stomach often get inflamed. It is probably a trade off in nature. A hyperactive immune system fights of any bug but also likes to attack own tissues..
I got these things during the two weeks I took Covid seriously in March of 2020, and had them on my shelf. I figured, why not see if they do any good in December of 2021, and so I took them the first time, and fewer of them the second. My son was also half-vaccinated against my will AND behind my back and so I absolutely had to figure out how to detox him as quickly as I possibly could do so. Most of the anti-Covidian recommendations from people like McCullough and others suggested using many of the things I already had to detox from or perturb the spike protein, and so I used them, along with a few other things, then, too.
There are so many claims ,by comment writers ,that he,she has or had covid ,sometime once and other times several times .What is the difference between having vovid or having the flu or pneumonia ? Most Doctors can't tell the difference ,how come you can ?
I can't. All I'll say is it was an odd cold that had crazy symptoms that I've never learned to associate with colds in the past. But in theory, yeah, you could be right.
Wolly every time me or someone has the flu or pneumonia it seems to be the worst one ever .I had many colds and flu in my 87 years and ever one was the worst one ever Pneumonia can be lethal and it killed many people Now it is called the Covid .If you enter a hospital it must be the covid ,that pays a hormongous amount if they murder you ,when having the flu .For pneumonia or flu the payment to the hospital is far, far less ,so what will thy pick ??
Different lands, different customs! There are a number of off-the-shelf Chinese medicines used for the flu, and one can usually find one which works. Another treatment I have often found useful over the years is grapefruit seed extract. None of these seem to have any impact on Omicron. The HCQ + zinc combo by contrast always seems to break the fever almost immediately. Ivermectin seems to act a bit more slowly, but is also effective.
Generally good advice. Only things I can add: if you want to maximize your chances of keeping healthy, you've got to be doing most of those things BEFORE you get sick. For example, if you haven't been taking large dose Vitamin D (I take 5000 units, a common recommendation) routinely, suddenly starting it when you get sick will do you no immediate good, because it takes time to build up in one's tissues. This isn't to say that upping a dose, or adding a product, is never a valid idea. For example, the water soluble vitamis B and C.
"with the addition of diarrhea" I think this is at least "not inconsistent" with what Geert Vanden Bossche has predicted regarding vaccine enhanced infection. I will need to search his Substack to sort that out.
Wonder why ALL these hoax pandemic headlines originate in China? Because it's the only place they can. You'll never see anything faked out of Warsaw, Zagreb, Paris, Munich, Bahia, Bogota, or Des Moines. The great chinese firewall permits them to make up whatever the hell they want.
Eugy, I am unconvinced that viral interference is real. Assuming for a moment that it is, how would it work? Let's discount magic, that both viruses are everywhere, in the air and water, and engaged in mortal combat for the recruitment of new victims. OK, so the viruses don't actually interact through the ether. So this "interference" must occur in an infected individual.
Let's look at some scenarios based on three different "people": uninfected by either virus, infected only by coronavirus, infected only by flu.
Here's the table:
1. Flu virus finds a non-infected individual
2. Flu virus finds an individual infected with COVID
3. Flu virus finds an individual already infected with flu
4. COVID finds an uninfected individual
5. COVID finds an individual infected with the flu
6. COVID finds an individual infected with COVID
Flu infectivity will be unaffected by situations 1 and 3. If viral interference was real, only individuals who had active COVID would be immune from flu. Therefore the flu infection rate would only be reduced by the extent that the population was COVID-positive. As far as Mr. Flu is concerned these populations would simply be smaller and less dense, by a factor of 20%. We know, from studies of large, medium sized, and small cities plus suburbs and rural areas, that population density matters but not so much if the population is 1000 people per square km as opposed to 800 people.
Viral interference makes even less sense at actual COVID infection rates, which were probably much lower than 20% at any given time.
That said, there could be some immune priming going on, where the immune system of a person who's recovered from COVID is super-charged and fights off any infection. This could have been tested through surveillance studies but at the time it actually mattered everyone in charge was a vaccine salesman.
Of course this might work the other way too, that someone who had the flu couldn't get COVID, at least for a while.
The official party line, that the masking and other mitigation methods caused a decline in flu infections is absurd. None were shown to reduce COVID by more than a couple of percent, yet we expect that they were nearly 100% effective in preventing another, similarly transmitted respiratory virus, COVID??
Plus remember the EUA for one of the tests was lifted because the test couldn't distinguish between flu and covid???
Plus the financial incentives for diagnosing, abusing, and killing COVID patients??
The simplest answer is also the correct one. 2020 was perhaps a very bad flu season and just about everyone who died from influenza, like the millions with "six or more|" serious comorbidities in the CDC data, was categorized as a COVID death.
PS I am not an epidemiologist or medical professional. My PhD is in organic chemistry.
I think it's important that only a small minority of people ever develop symptomatic respiratory infections at a given time. The hard ceiling, judging from German fever gauge data, seems to be around 10%, in the depths of winter. In the spring it's generally much lower. To this comes the evidence of challenge studies, which often have intriguing results. i.e., squirting SARS-2 up the noses of immune-naive volunteers yields only 50% infection rates.
So, I think most of the time, most people are simply invulnerable to infection from many respiratory viruses; and, that the small number of remaining vulnerable respiratory tracts can be kicked out of the susceptibles pool for a time, perhaps for the whole season, by infection. Interferon has been floated as the mechanism here, but I suspect there are others.
Empirical (observational) evidence for an interference effect is pretty strong. Studies on the 2009 Swine Flu are especially interesting, because most places had no hygiene measures to speak of, and nevertheless other hCoVs were broadly suppressed. The interlocking seasonality of different viruses also suggests interference: Why is rhinovirus in season in the fall and the spring, why is influenza in season just after the solstice, why are hCoVs, RSV and some others in season at the solstice?
That's very interesting. Is it possible that everyone has a very low level of infection by various viruses pretty much all the time, but they only run wild when certain conditions are met within the person? Sort of like you always "have" 4-5 different flus at the same time, but you only develop symptoms or even a noticeable immune response when something happens that allows one of those flus to start reproducing so rapidly your body kicks in a serious response? If so, that might allow for viruses to compete for dominance within the various niches within a human, and thus a human population over time, based on how well they can ride that edge of reproducing while not doing it so much they trigger a crack down by the immune system.
I really have very little idea of how these things work, but apparently it is still a bit of a mystery to medicine in general?
This study is also interesting in this context: "Recent influenza vaccination is associated with a significant reduction in the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 severity."
Maybe I'm just getting hung up on the terminology. Virus competition sounds like the viruses are duking it out; that COVID is more formidable in some way than influenza, so it "defeats" the other virus. I am open to the idea that the ***immunity*** provided by exposure to one virus confers a generalized protective immune response that works with other pathogens. This raises the question, though, of synchronicity and order of events, and also why does flu not do the same for COVID?
I had this idea 3 years ago, in light of the flu's disappearance, that influenza infection was a REQUIREMENT for severe COVID -- that you had to have both to get really sick. I doubt anyone has looked into this.
Now, given the approximately 30 days of protection afforded by the big three vaccines, I'm thinking that maybe close to 100% of the (limited) protection from the vaccines is due to the same type of generalized immune response just from taking the shot -- any shot.
Had I been in charge of clinical development the first study I would have conducted was injection of the blank mRNA vehicle. The next study would be testing for COVID infection after injection of an mRNA coding for human albumin, a common blood protein.
I'll bet either one of those shots, or both, was good for 30 days of general protection from viruses.
I know it's a nutso idea, but how else do you deal with a vaccine that only provides immunity for a few weeks? Forget the circulating antibodies, they come and go.
If they fought equally hard there'd be a lot more reported flu cases. The stats I saw were at least 20:1 with flu cases near summer baseline.
If they were "equally good" it wouldn't necessarily mean half the cases would be of each. You'd have to factor in relative transmissivity (is that a word?). That effect could change linearly, multiplicatively, or exponentially.
But still nobody explains how viruses fight one another. BTW doesn't the flu season begin in November, and didn't we not know we were f****d until March? Maybe flu disappearance was a coincidence?
Still the easiest explanation for otherwise "fighting viruses": COVID "season" started earlier, maybe as early as September, 2019. (Not noticing is not so strange if you believe, as I do, that no more people died in 2020 than in 2019). By the time the flu season started COVID was in full swing. Nobody caught the flu because so many people had already been RECENTLY infected with COVID. Their immune systems were still stoked, easily fought off the flu. You can add to this fantasy that coronavirus induces an immune response to competing viruses, including influenza.
Or you can believe that flu deaths were manipulated, as were virtually ALL data they've released on this.
And if you were a conspiracy theorist, which I'm sure neither you nor your readers are, you might entertain one side of a conversation I dreamed up: "Hey maybe let's hold off on the flu for a couple of years. Flu is so boring. They get the shot they still croak. One of our guys in China has come up with something really interesting. A new plague for a new year. The year of the raccoon dog."
Whichever one is more transmissible (transmissibility being determined in no small part by prior immunity) gets to the susceptible hosts first and knocks them out of the pool of infectibles.
I’ve posted many times about why the reclassified influenza scenario doesn’t work. The only reason you find viral interference implausible, is that it makes no sense in light of SIR. But, almost nothing about the way viruses behave is explained by SIR, which has totally failed to account for everything from virus seasonality to the interlocking patterns of infection noticed by flu surveillance, etc. Plainly, SIR overestimates the number of susceptibles, takes an overly narrow view of immunity, among other things.
"I am not a biologist" but I believe transmissibility is an intrinsic property of the virus, immunity an intrinsic property of the host, and transmission a consequence of exposure plus the interplay of those other two properties.
Everyone keeps mentioning SIR, but I don't know what that is.
In Dec 22 and Jan 23 however we had an infection rate of around 80% in China, with over 1 billion people getting infected and most ending up in bed with a fever for 4-7 days. Admittedly this took place under extremely unusual circumstances caused by the sudden end to the government's previous superhuman efforts to suppress transmission. Nonetheless, it would seem to contradict your 10% hard ceiling, no?
That is curious. Do you think that we and the many others who reported on events at the time fabricated the numbers?
Despite the lack of official statistics, it's not like there was any shortage of information. We published several English-language articles on events during that period and the 80% number is probably on the low side. Within 14 days of the government's surrender to reality on November 30th, hundreds of friends, colleagues and business partners all across China all fell sick. The streets and subways in many cities were empty, while HR departments from most companies reported close to 100% infection rates. In fact, with the exception of the small group of people who were immune due to a prior infection and a few people protected by using HCQ + zinc as a prophylactic, I don't know a single person who did not get infected at the time.
A lot of people were obviously sick. How successful the current Covid wave proves to be will say a lot about how high infections rates actually were in the Dec/Jan wave.
You make many good point in questioning the mechanism of viral interference, but surely the evidence is there to see . . . ?
I wonder whether we as 21st century humans ascribe too much to our alleged ability to understand the world completely. We observe a phenomenon, and insist it can't possibly be happening because we can't explain why it could be happening. Therefore something else must be happening other than what we think we see.
I think that's a pretty good heuristic in many, many areas, but one thing I have learned in the last three years is we know a lot less about disease, and especially the immune system, than laymen like me were led to believe pre-pandemic.
The problem is the SIR model of virus transmission. It's true that viral interference doesn't make any sense in the susceptible-infected-recovered paradigm. But, a lot of things don't make sense in this paradigm, for example it can't even explain why waves of infection collapse, or how they start. It's just wrong.
I don't know. I'm just a (shade tree) mechanical engineer.
But when it comes to medicine, simply asserting the apparent absence of a well understood cause for an observed effect does not necessarily mean the effect isn't happening. I suppose it's true in most cases. But it's hubristic to insist it must be true in all cases, especially when talking about the human immune system, which I at least am convinced we barely understand at all (and the less meddling with healthy immune systems the better).
Edit: As eugyppius suggests above, it may well be the model we (and you) are using is simply wrong. We don't yet have a better one, but the current one is broken.
Consider, for a moment, how Newtonian physics could no longer explain the workings of the universe the more we studied nature, so a new model had to be developed. Imagine what it must have been like to be a physicist at the turn of the last century.
You can't prove that Santa Claus does not exist, or that Joe Biden is not actually a giraffe. If you say that Santa lives all I ask is to show me proof. Show me a video of him leaving his house and flying a herd of reindeer to the North Pole. You are the one making a claim. It's not up to me to prove you're wrong, it's up to you to provide evidence that you're right. Get it?
I have no idea what you are on about here, but since you mention Santa Claus, if a pile of wrapped presents appear every Christmas morning under the Christmas tree, and Santa Claus is the only explanation anyone has for how they got there, then that's proof Santa Claus exists.
That, as far as I can tell, is where we are when it comes to the human immune system. We have no clue.
Quantum physicists used math and what was known about classical mechanics, then experimented to prove their theories. If I told Einstein that I didn't believe in the photoelectric effect he would have shown me the evidence.
OK, I think the disappearance of influenza in 2020 and 2021 was due to global warming.
While a bit wordy as a 19th century German philospher is prone to be, the message of that paragraph is simply that humans, to a large degree, prefer incomplete, incorrect, or possibly entirely false, perspectives of reality. He treats this topic in depth elsewhere in the book.
I spent first 18 months of pandemic in his private data group on FB before discovering Twitter and SubStack - it was fascinating to see the hysteria in such an intimate private setting.
So many screen shotted bad takes of his I have saved in a “follow up next year” folder, but, unfortunately, got banned for not towing the line.
I’ve got a treasure trove on him. I was in a bubble not realizing there were other people who thought like me for over a year (had never once thought to make a Twitter account).
So I basically just joined Facebook groups which claimed to be data oriented, but was almost always immediately kicked out for suggesting rationality of each and every one.
To Olesens credit he tolerated me longer than most - made it to July 2021 before the ban.
He shares this article, hysterical that long Covid is coming for kids, and me quoting another part of same article got me excommunicated.
I find Peter Hotez to be a greater Ding ,Peter has built a decades long career on virus paranoia while the Dinger is basically a rookie.Starting to wonder is the medical profession is just a hive of narcissistic sociopaths.
OMG now I know why I saw 2 masked people this morning ! One of the store employees, and a single man in a car ! they are WP readers. I thought no one ever read that rag anymore, but now we know who do. And we have to learn that from a German professor LOL. Thanks for clearing that up E !
And, if you look closely, these mask devotees often look and move like the walking dead. I then wonder what number of booster they could possibly be on.
My friend recounted to me from her chat with another friend (jabbed 5times); “I caught COVID and I was deathly ill! Can you imagine how much sicker I would have been if I didn’t have the vaccines?” Arrrrgggghhhhh
dad at 5 jabs, has barely worn masks unless where he could not enter without it (early on stores, then only hospital and care facility). Always hated it.
I laughed out loud when I saw that single man in his car, though, just could not help myself. Looks so ridiculous, I wanted to ask him if he really wanted to look like a dumb person.
well now we know where they got the message from LOL. I had no idea there were still WP readers after all that happened, but some people will never learn. Eternal hybernation
It's almost as though experts don't actually know very much at all about virus and transmission thereof.
Terrain theory anyone - Must surely play a part in all this farrago - where are all the dead Chinese that the Guardian repeatedly told us would be the inevitable consequence of them abandoning Lockdown theory?
Question for Eugyppius - what does he think of Dr David Martin's take on the Moderna patents and that covid 1 and 2 were bio-weapons?
Anyone with a scrap of sanity and the ability to plow through the media BS knows this is all nonsense. We have heard over the last 3.3 years all the endless prognostications that 10's of millions are going to die from this covid or that covid virus. Not more than a few handfuls actually did die from anything called covid.
If there were to be 10's of millions dying from some virus or something else, it would kill off the entire planet. How could you stop it? WHO, the CDC, FDA? All would be CLUELESS because they only know how to manage FAKE viruses and FAKE pandemics by using FAKE vaccines. And over the last 3 years, they all screwed even that up monstrously.
Aside from this post, I wanted to wish you well as you move into the next phase of your life. I have truly enjoyed reading your substack and your great sense of humor along the way. I wasn't able to comment on your post yesterday as it was protected by a pay wall. You have been a breath of fresh air in the stifling atmosphere of Covid fog.
In the USA, some believe in a “deep state” conspiracy involving intelligence agencies, corrupt politicians, military industrial complex, Big Pharma agency capture, etc. Yet, they can’t explain how this “USA deep state” also works in synchronicity, within hundreds of countries, where there’s no FBI, CIA, HHS, etc. Clockwork coordination of COVID genocidal response proved the existence of a “global deep state”, despite there is no global government!
There are no political or economic structures “formally” supporting such global governance. Then, who could run a government in the shadows without no mainstream media exposing it? Who controls global media in order to guarantee global censorship? Who pays political parties and political careers in hundreds of countries to control global politics?
Most still have doubts if Freemasonry (which worships Lucifer) wasn't behind the scenes. Why? masonic secrecy. Why do they need secrecy to the extent of murdering those who violate it? Is it because they are covering good deeds? Not goodness but evil needs secrecy in order to grow unchecked!
In most countries, worship still had restrictions when everything else was opened in full. Casinos were packed in Vegas while churches lock-downed. Why were churches the last to recover freedom? Is there a war between the city of Satan or the civilization of God?
Not explainable through money, power and corruption
“What makes a person want to control and hoard? What makes a person choose wealth or power or accumulating “stuff” over supporting each other thrive? Why would members of our own species want to destroy all life on this planet?
We aren’t dealing with your average Joe’s. They are multi-generations of inbred, disconnected, mentally unstable psychos whose entire existence has been destruction, murder and chaos.” 1
Think about it. If you were a billionaire: when is enough, enough? Is enough never enough? Instead of enjoying life with your loved ones, why would you spend most of your billions with a mafia obsessed to cull humans, risking a revolution and being jailed or executed? This is way larger than a psychonspiracy.
Why would Facebook Zuckerberg give 450 million away to rig the 2020 elections in favor of Biden and democrat governors when he didn’t get that money back from the government? Think: even if you were a billionaire fanatic of the Democratic Party, why would you spend 450 million dollars in bribery, risking jail? And 450 million doesn’t even count on what the Zuck Bucks bought in prior elections and 2024.
Why would a foreigner like Soros, who doesn’t even visit the USA, give away billions to the Democratic Party?
In 2010, masons Warren Buffet (who funded Microsoft) and Bill Gates founded The Giving Pledge to manage the money of any billionaire who, just like them, was a figurehead of the masonic mafia and had to return them the dirty money made from monopoly, usury, insider information, sabotage, moles, government grants and contracts, tax credits and arranged bids, stolen patents, mason or corrupt judges favoring them (e.g. when Zuckerberg stole Facebook), counterfeit money and laundering, drugs, etc.
This is not a coincidence: “Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway “was a seasoned user of tax credits”2 “Bill Gates of Microsoft, Jeff Bezos of Amazon, and Warren Buffett control more wealth than the 160 million poorest Americans combined. And Buffett doesn’t mind working the system to keep it that way. His net worth as of January is $87 billion, but Buffett says he paid only $1.8 million in taxes in 2015—a mere 0.002 percent of his wealth. Buffett takes full advantage of tax loopholes. He uses Berkshire Hathaway, a valuable tax shelter, for his investments. The Republican tax bill will save Berkshire an estimated $37 billion, because the firm habitually defers its tax liabilities, which will now be paid off at a much lower rate.”3
Figurehead money had to be put to use under the mason agenda. Not only tax elusion explains why “400 highest tax-paying Americans donated between 8 percent and 11 percent of their income in 2010”. By 2019, the Pledge had raised more than 500 billion from 200 out of 2000 global billionaires. 1 It could now be over a trillion dollars (1000 billion), considering that the 2 founders gave over 100 billion, then it’s less than 1 billion for the rest, if we discount the top 5 donors.
Living Pledge hall of shame: Mark Zuckerberg, Paul Allen (co-founder of Microsoft), Michael R. Bloomberg, Elon Musk, David Rockefeller (d. 2017), Jeff and Marieke Rothschild, Carl Icahn, Michael Milken (junk bonds scam), ...
They are not philanthropists (from greek, human-friends) but misanthropists (human-haters). They are not giving away their money: they are returning to Satan the stolen money to programs designed to exterminate us. Thank you but, no thank you! Their power is so obvious: their money is not taxed even if it’s destined to the common bad instead of the common good.
Why is it that so many billionaires are evil? It’s hard to believe s that money corrupts everyone: there are many examples that prove it doesn’t. It looks like there is a rigged system that searches to corrupt them (Epstein) and only allows the most evil to become billionaires by destroying the competition with unchecked illegal practices.
If it wasn’t for the freemason cabal, why would IBM masons give pimple college-dropout Bill Gates monopoly to IBM PC? He didn’t even have a software and stole/“bought” it from a Seattle programmer!
In 1921, the Council on Foreign Relations was founded, to infiltrate and control democracy, by freemasons David Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Herbert Hoover, Allen Dulles, Walter Lippmann and Edward M. House. The impressive 10-thousand members list proves the power grab was successful.1 Since 1921, the CFR has chosen almost every single Secretary of State: they only need to infiltrate or bribe the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (only 11 of 20 members), and influence the Senate.
Similar mason institutions, most with similar names, were founded in over 100 countries, including Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs and the European Council on Foreign Relations2: practically, there’s no war where the CFR isn’t involved on both sides. 3 Their magazine Foreign Affairs is one way they send orders to all members.
In 2018, Wikileaks proved the CFR controlled all mainstream media.4
Hoover, Truman, Eisenhower, Bush father and son, Carter, Clinton, Obama 5 ... some argue that, with few exceptions like JFK and Trump, at least since WWII, all US presidents were freemasons and many CFR. All administrations were filled with thousands of CFR members. 6 The Trump administration was no exception. 7 It’s not a coincidence that Neil M. Gorsuch, CFR Supreme Court Justice appointed by Trump, betrayed conservatives by ruling in favour of homosexual marriage and other New World Order “progressive” agenda.
Another proof of grooming for infiltration: 28 Jun 2019 Democrat Tulsi Gabbard wasn’t renewed the 5 year CFR membership. 8 Because she wouldn’t obey all orders? In 2020, she was still pro-homo-marriage9 and pro-abortion (a basic CFR request) and pro-Biden, but wanted paper ballots, Electoral College, supported Trump in breaking up Big Tech and removing their censorship through section 23010, Glass-Steagall, pro-natalism paid family and medical leave plans up to 12 weeks, less public and defense spending, drug patent breaking, no war.11 That’s probably why she was defamed by Kamala12, Hillary Clinton and mason RINO Mitt Romney.13 In 2021, she questioned Fauci on COVID origin and masks.14 Tulsi was groomed by the WEF in the "Forum of Young Global Leaders" but suddenly was disappeared, and not because of her age: she had turned 38 (41 in 2023), while the “young” freemason Macron (45) is still in the search results. Fremason Trudeau, 51, isn’t, but is listed in weforum.org15, while Tulsi has been erased from there, too, in Apr 2022 (she independized from the Democratic party in Oct 2022).16 Maybe this was the drop that filled the cup: she’s against CBDCs and social scoring.17
I can't help wondering how obvious interactions between various viruses through history might have been, had we been as fixated on testing as Covid made us.
When talking to friends my current favorite phrase is "compared to what?". People died of influenza every year. Hospitals were overrun during flu season, but that wasn't news. People would get colds several times a year and that wasn't news.
My favorite moment during the Coronadoom kerfuffle came in the spring of 2021 when the Seattle Times breathlessly announced that cases of the flu were WAAAAYYYY down during the previous flu season! Apparently, it never occurred to them that because the hospitals (for profit institutions) were not getting paid by the gov't for each case of the flu but were instead Making Major Bank for each Covid case, every case of the flu magically became a Covid case!
Perhaps the decision on PCR cycle threshold ultimately came from the accounting departments.
If the government reimbursement for elevated PCR tests ( never meant as a diagnostic tool)evaporated it would have been “Opposite Day “in the HMO accounting departments. Because of the covid jab scam a terrible blow has been struck against our previous belief in the healthcare system in the USA and the world. The good news is the exposure of big Pharma / globalists capturing our regulatory ( government)institutions and the industrialization of health care impedes the implementation of the elites next health scare.Damn every single one of these wanna be godlike elites and their minions to eternal Hell, they have earned it.
A "coding error". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 from a former software analyst, author, and implementer...
Interesting consideration. So if flu goes down when covid goes up, is it because the covid virus suppresses the flu virus, or is it because covid is more profitable to the hospitals, and so they classify all cases of flu as covid?
In the war of the virusses the covid virussses took all the flu virusses prisoners of war .
I vote the latter. 😎
Snow, It's cause maaassks prevented flu transmission!! Just think about how much worse it would've been without maaassks!!!
Viral interference has been researched for many many years (pre-covid). It's notable that throughout the history of tracking respiratory illnesses, prior to the covid era anyways, co-infections were rare and usually only one dominant virus was circulating at a time. Even for flu, usually it's one dominant type of flu at a time and then when that type collapses, the next type moves in to a different cohort of vulnerable individuals.
There is nothing unique about any of the corona viruses or the flu or rsv or parainfluenza etc etc. Those who are near end of life or vulnerable are susceptible to whatever the first virus or bacteria it is that gets them.
I wish I could hire a skywriter to put your second paragraph up in the air for all to see.
It doesn't have to be an either/or question. Both can be true and probably are
Thank you for the voice of reason; many things in the world are matters of degree, shades of gray, etc. Especially with complex systems, there must be dozens of factors, perhaps more, always in operation. But the crowd prefers easy to understand simple concepts. This is of course exploited by the unscrupulous. For example: Did you ever tell an off-color ethnic joke in your life? Well, shame on you! Clearly you are a racist and a white supremacist, to be lumped in the same category as (say) the men who were the directors of the extermination camps during WW II. I'm exaggerating here, but only a bit.
"The crowd prefers easy to understand simple concepts." I think of this as thinking at bumper-sticker level.
This is a FACT which is almost never mentioned in mainstream media.
Yup. Because it would expose everything. It was the foundation of the fraud.
Not just the flu, but viral pneumonia, TB, bronchitis, COPD, etc. All of 'em all but disappeared entirely.
The entire thing was a hoax straight out of the gate for anyone that didn't jump around with their hair on fire, remained calm, and did just a little bit of research.
EVENT201 was known, so was SPARS, Clade-X, and of course videos were out from a year prior of the Global Vaccine Summit where the perps were talking about how the popularity of vaccines was dropping and "what to do about it."
Not to mention knowing full well that the perps want us dead, to save the planet of course, not that they'd lead by example, ... at least willingly.
In late '20, my husband got C0VID which turned into pneumonia. Had to go to the hospital. Diagnosed with "C0VID pneumonia." You know, gov $$$$ for C0VID.
If only they could somehow make everything C0VID... C0VID STDs, C0VID depression, C0VID overdoses, C0VID broken arms...
The money factor was a prime driver: As others note, any diagnosis of "Covid", however tenuous, generated instant money from Uncle Sam. But don't forget that most, if not all, of the emergency treatments were under EUA and similar laws that absolved the hospital (indeed nearly the whole supply chain) of any liability. Add to this that the government mandated only certain treatment (e.g. remdesivir).
Under this regime, can you imagine any administrator allowing the use of off-label drugs to treat a patient presenting with Covid symtoms? They'd have virtually no profit and all sorts of liability risks, including failing to follow recommended protocols.
The medical system is corrupt from top to bottom. At a personal level, I recommend you minimize your use of it to the minimum possible.
The money (mammon) is what DROVE fellow Americans to kill other Americans. Doctors, nurses, and pols were particularly complicit.
But the reasons behind it by those that designed the PSYOP19 program, have death (lots of it, as in the hundreds of millions or even billions over time) and control as their primary goals.
The medical system is corrupt as you stated, but what troubles me is how many Americans are back to their leisure activities as if nothing significant is going to change anytime soon. FedNow begins in earnest in just over a month. I'm sure that there will be enticements to get people to convert to it, entirely. Not sure how long it will take for them to begin the next PSYOP which we're promised will be far worse than the first one, in order to get full compliance there.
People should be researching this and trying to defend against converting to it. Instead, they simply continue on their ignorance-is-bliss merry path of leisure and entertainment as if nothing is fishy.
We are so screwed. Anyone that has not made preparations, personal or otherwise, and I'm not talking about their finances here, is foolish.
We're in the fight of our lives and most of us are clueless.
"We're in the fight of your lives and most of us are clueless." Yep. But, I think it's always been that way throughout history. Only 8 people made it onto Noah's ark.............
Actually they did. All deaths in the hospital are "tested" for covid. When the "virus" is present, all deaths are covid. Ka-ching!
'If only they could somehow make everything C0VID.'
They did, at least for a while, by diagnosing "with" Covid instead of "from" Covid. Because $$$.
Most flu 'season' data are not even based on empirical evidence -- they're imputed statistics using essentially imputed data from previous seasons, rather than actual inputs.
As we know all whyrusses come from china .The latest sub variant is called the sweet and sour whyruss .It originates in the yellow sea and it jumps from walrusses to chines take out food .
Are you sure there aren't any pangolins involved?
Correct-a-mundo my friend! 👌
Well, excess mortality went up with 10% (from ~1% to ~1.1%) so still more than usual people died of the Flu/covid/vaccine than normal.
That might've been part of it, but I think it's probably true that viruses compete against each other.
I am struggling to think of a reason why. It's common for a viral flu (or covid) to lead to bacterial pneumonia, I assume because the immune system is weakened by fighting the former. So why would one virus out compete another.
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/western-media-attempts-listlessly/comment/16616732
There are serious articles about this. Eugyppius has written about it, also Unglossed substack. Immune system is complex, so trying to apply common sense or logic to understanding it doesn't usually work.
It's partially due to the PHE repeatedly labelling this SARS-Cov2 as a 'novel' virus as if somehow it doesn't share a huge amount of proteins with other coronaviruses as well as many other viruses. Immunity to those shared proteins through recognition and destruction of infected cells by innate and secretory IgA mechanisms is what has evolved to keep humans going with a sniffle or a fever here or there.
It's fear-mongering.
I recommend that anybody on here who gets the flu this year also, take a Covid test at the same time to see what happens. I bet it might be one in the same!
A waste of time and energy. The ‘tests’ are all junk; they’re wildly inaccurate.
Early on, in Spring 2020, my response to the panicking folks around me was "why didn't you freak out like this during flu season ... every year?"
From 2018, hospitals treating patients in tents. We build a load of emergency hospitals around the world and as far as I am aware the vast majority went unused.
https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/
Eric is a feiges Ding.
Off topic - or exactly on topic - this might be the best summary of key events of the last three years I've read yet. It's 22,000 words - divided into five sections (Iatrogenic deaths, lockdowns, masks, etc.) It's very impressive to me. It might take you an hour, but I hope many serious students of Covid subjects take the time to read it. It was written by authors in the Isle of Man of all places.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSL7FZPYA6mOsLvbDh7LHxRoLaLSbT-dUi6JDRLo9Cn4vS2oKSJHwKDWTZCgbfqXOWa8f5f8ZoYQfZ4/pub
Thank you for the link. I agree that it might just be the best article written about this Covid horror show. It both broke my heart and made me angry about the treatment of the elderly. It has always been a distressing sight to see our vulnerable elders treated with such contempt and abandonment - even prior to the virus. So many of us have promised to ourselves that we wouldn’t allow our elders to suffer such indignity. Fortunately, my mother and father died well before the introduction of the virus. I say fortunately because I would have broken down doors to be able to see either of them. I would not have backed down quietly.
I had a brother-in-law who died because of cancer (not the virus) using at home hospice care which was sparse at best and then given last rites OVER THE PHONE. How hypocritical is a priest who is afraid to die! My late, unvaccinated cousin contracted the virus, was given two courses of Remdesivir, then ventilation all while his wife pleaded with them to use a different protocol. Others who subjected themselves to the shots got ugly and debilitating injuries and who now admit that they got it wrong but are handicapped with illnesses that take a large chunk of their treasury.
The world went mad! It seemed as if people lost their minds and were under the spell of evil. There was no other logical explanation to me.
Thanks for the feedback. I agree the anecdotes about the "abuse" of the isolated elderly are probably the most powerful and maddening parts of the document.
As I wrote about many times before ,my brother was murdered in a hospital with deadly treatment protocols .He went in there with a flu .I believe most readers know by now ,that the lethal treatment for money goes on in all hospitals .
So sorry about your brother. :-( I lost my own brother to a motorcycle accident in early 2019. It's messed up that I'm "grateful" he was killed doing something he loved, by pure chance, than being killed by the "healthcare" industrial complex.
I too have that thought. I lost my Dad in 2018 & my boyfriend (a fairytale story you wouldn't believe is actually true) in 2019. They wouldn't have survived this assault.
My heart is so broken over all the people who've been hurt...
Thanks. Will start to read later this evening. Cheers.
Thank you for including the google docs link in your comment. Very interesting. For starters, I read Intro, About, and Conclusion; found it very interesting and affirming of some of my thoughts. Have saved link to read more later. Excellent read.
Good deal, Jan. I'd be interested to learn if many readers find this document as impressive as I did.
I just wrote a Substack piece cataloging all the Covid scandals that - wave after wave like giant tsunamis - are pounding the world.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/cataloging-a-tsunami-of-covid-scandals
Thanks for sharing this. It sure starts off with a bang.
Ich haette "ist ein feiges Ding" schreiben sollen, but I thought I would mix up Englisch and German or follow the recently established tradition of Denglisch for the sake of most readers. This is a play on Feigl-Ding's name; I am saying "Eric is a cowardly thing." I think that all the evidence supports this.
Which begs the question: Who flung Ding! 😎
Sum Yung Elik.
While it's hardly a catastrophe, it is true that some new Omicron variant has swept through China over the past several weeks. Our entire family got it, as did many friends and colleagues.
For those whose previous infection was back in the spring of 2022, the symptoms (39C fever, nasty sore throat, then coughing) are overall quite similar, though with the addition of diarrhea in many cases. By contrast, those who went through an infection in Dec 2022 have for the most part had no fever and few symptoms.
Today I was in a hospital and there were still plenty of people without masks. From that I think we can deduce that the level of fear is for the most part non-existent.
Of course no doubt many in the West will claim it's just the flu. Yet even if we did not have the antigen test results (whose results are both reliable and reproducible starting approximately 2 days after infection), we would know it isn't "the flu" (感冒). Why? Because flu treatments don't bring any relief, whereas covid-specific treatments (e.g. HCQ/zinc/ivermectin) do.
I beg to differ, albeit respectfully of course. I have treated Covid the two times I have had it with the following: NAC (N-acetyl cysteine), Nattokinase and serrapetase, Quercetin, zinc, vitamins D and C, and colloidal silver. Other than the Nattokinase and serrapeptase (which I use to combat the spike protein), I would use these in the treatment of a flu or bad cold and indeed have done so with success. Things seem right as rain within a matter of days to a week's time, though there has occasionally been a lingering cough. I used to treat my body terribly (drinking, smoking, no exercise, poor eating habits, etc.). Since the summer of 2019, though, I have worked hard to be in relatively good health. Perhaps the last thing is the most relevant factor here.
But why? I got Covid last year and I didn't use anything besides some Ibuprofen for my minor headache and some booze for general disease management. Symptoms were mild and gone within three days.
This is the root of my skepticism about Covid treatments. For the vast majority of the population, even Delta Covid was not very harmful, let alone deadly. So when someone like, for example, Joe Rogan, who is an actual athlete and therefore much healthier than most people, declares he licked Covid with ivermectin, I wonder why we assume ivermectin had anything to do with it.
Now people I respect like Bret Weinstein have done the deep dives and concluded treatments like ivermectin apparently have some salutatory effect. But at the same time I still think the jury is still out: most people will and have got through Covid just fine without any treatment at all. The question remains, does early treatment work for people who are at high risk of disease? Anecdotes like Joe Rogan's don't help answer that question.
Of course, that's no reason to vilify advocates of early treatment, as continues to happen in the West.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/151077386X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Dr. Kory's new book on ivermectin, to be released on June 6, the anniversary of D Day, the day of the Normandy Invasion. The once reputable and journalistic (and not infopharmatainment whore) BBC sent messages to the maquis of the French Resistance by reading lines of Mallarme, to signal them to sabotage the Nazis on that day. The graveyards of the south of France are filled with the bodies of young men who died on that day. I think the confluence of anniversaries is significant.
It was Dr. Kory on DarkHorse with Bret Weinstein, two long centuries ago now, that redpilled me. The equator has unbound every day since then, coiled like a cotton mouth, and tectonic shifts of totalitarianism have split the cosmos every second.
Might be more in there on ivm for you, and he and his co-author write colloquially and captivatingly.
Heh, Bret Weinstein is responsible for redpilling a lot of people on a lot of subjects. Which is why the Narrative gatekeepers hate him so much.
The only treatment for the common cold (coronoviruses) is time. You have to endure your symptoms for the length of time required for immunity until the next common cold comes around. Such is human life. Of course you can take sleep, chicken soup, orange juice, cough drops, aspirin, or anything else to mitigate/dull the symptoms if you like, but time is the only thing to make it go away eventually. 3 days coming, 3 days with, 3 days going. The common cold shots DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but poison you.
IIRC, he never once said he "licked covid with ivermectin", he said he threw a ton of different stuff at it. It was only after the 'experts' started saying he took horsepaste that he stood up and was like WTF this is a human medicine.
That sounds like what I had, twice, a few months apart, in 2020. Headache, lethargy, and a very slight sore throat, all disappearing rather abruptly in a bit over two days. I took no medication at all, aside from a lot of sleep.
Exactly my experience! Headache, bit of a sore throat and a few days of feeling quite exhausted.
Better than most colds for me....
And no coughing, sneezing, or runny nose, and certainly no difficulty with breathing.
One thing that stood out as odd to me was that the headache, which had stayed constant for about two days, receded rather suddenly over the course of about an hour. In both cases, I had the thing over the weekend, and in both cases I think it went away between about 4 and 5 o'clock on Sunday afternoon, and I felt fine and was ready to eat and read again. Did you notice anything similar to that in your case?
Yep, no coughing, no congested nose, no lung problems at all. Without the positive lateral flow test I would have thought nothing of it....
If our experience in China is any guide, this hints that you probably had a prior infection at some point. The reason why so many people got so ill in December 2022 in China was because it was the first infection for all those people. This was only possible because the Chinese efforts to prevent transmission by means of relentless mass testing and lockdowns did enjoy a modicum of "success" for a time, despite ultimately being a failure and coming at an unfathomably high price for society.
True. I bought an Abbott labs Antibody test and that was weakly positive for IgG even before my first infection. Probably had Covid quite early.
However, that means that my first infection was even milder as I didn't notice anything?
The fear is strong on this thread.
I would guess that you have a strong functioning immune system. 👍
Love that. Booze is a great manager of disease annoyances.
Early on, they talked about blood types. A seems to have it the worst, AB/ B tend to have less extreme illness, an O rarely gets it. Is that true? Not really sure. Not sure about a lot of things.
I am blood type 0 and I rarely get sick at all, even when everyone around me is quite sick.
However, I suffer from autoimmune type issues, my joints, tendons and my stomach often get inflamed. It is probably a trade off in nature. A hyperactive immune system fights of any bug but also likes to attack own tissues..
I got these things during the two weeks I took Covid seriously in March of 2020, and had them on my shelf. I figured, why not see if they do any good in December of 2021, and so I took them the first time, and fewer of them the second. My son was also half-vaccinated against my will AND behind my back and so I absolutely had to figure out how to detox him as quickly as I possibly could do so. Most of the anti-Covidian recommendations from people like McCullough and others suggested using many of the things I already had to detox from or perturb the spike protein, and so I used them, along with a few other things, then, too.
There are so many claims ,by comment writers ,that he,she has or had covid ,sometime once and other times several times .What is the difference between having vovid or having the flu or pneumonia ? Most Doctors can't tell the difference ,how come you can ?
I can't. All I'll say is it was an odd cold that had crazy symptoms that I've never learned to associate with colds in the past. But in theory, yeah, you could be right.
Wolly every time me or someone has the flu or pneumonia it seems to be the worst one ever .I had many colds and flu in my 87 years and ever one was the worst one ever Pneumonia can be lethal and it killed many people Now it is called the Covid .If you enter a hospital it must be the covid ,that pays a hormongous amount if they murder you ,when having the flu .For pneumonia or flu the payment to the hospital is far, far less ,so what will thy pick ??
Different lands, different customs! There are a number of off-the-shelf Chinese medicines used for the flu, and one can usually find one which works. Another treatment I have often found useful over the years is grapefruit seed extract. None of these seem to have any impact on Omicron. The HCQ + zinc combo by contrast always seems to break the fever almost immediately. Ivermectin seems to act a bit more slowly, but is also effective.
HCQ is, like Quercetin, a zinc ionophore. I guess it's better because it's stronger.
Generally good advice. Only things I can add: if you want to maximize your chances of keeping healthy, you've got to be doing most of those things BEFORE you get sick. For example, if you haven't been taking large dose Vitamin D (I take 5000 units, a common recommendation) routinely, suddenly starting it when you get sick will do you no immediate good, because it takes time to build up in one's tissues. This isn't to say that upping a dose, or adding a product, is never a valid idea. For example, the water soluble vitamis B and C.
"Because flu treatments don't bring any relief, whereas covid-specific treatments (e.g. HCQ/zinc/ivermectin) do."
I'm not convinced that's true, but I sure wish our host would dive into this more deeply. He has expressed skepticism on this point in the past.
"with the addition of diarrhea" I think this is at least "not inconsistent" with what Geert Vanden Bossche has predicted regarding vaccine enhanced infection. I will need to search his Substack to sort that out.
*edit* - not exactly consistent with my memory, but interesting . . . https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/wastewater-based-epidemiology-does
If I read one more article about how NPIs defeated the flu in 2021 I will implode.
Covid-19 has been repeated, what, several million times in the past 3 years?
Influenza, or the flu, never benefited from this kind of reporting.
Go figure...
Wonder why ALL these hoax pandemic headlines originate in China? Because it's the only place they can. You'll never see anything faked out of Warsaw, Zagreb, Paris, Munich, Bahia, Bogota, or Des Moines. The great chinese firewall permits them to make up whatever the hell they want.
Then when the truth comes out of somewhere else, such as Omicron in South Africa, TPTB jump all over it to prove it as a lie.
Eugy, I am unconvinced that viral interference is real. Assuming for a moment that it is, how would it work? Let's discount magic, that both viruses are everywhere, in the air and water, and engaged in mortal combat for the recruitment of new victims. OK, so the viruses don't actually interact through the ether. So this "interference" must occur in an infected individual.
Let's look at some scenarios based on three different "people": uninfected by either virus, infected only by coronavirus, infected only by flu.
Here's the table:
1. Flu virus finds a non-infected individual
2. Flu virus finds an individual infected with COVID
3. Flu virus finds an individual already infected with flu
4. COVID finds an uninfected individual
5. COVID finds an individual infected with the flu
6. COVID finds an individual infected with COVID
Flu infectivity will be unaffected by situations 1 and 3. If viral interference was real, only individuals who had active COVID would be immune from flu. Therefore the flu infection rate would only be reduced by the extent that the population was COVID-positive. As far as Mr. Flu is concerned these populations would simply be smaller and less dense, by a factor of 20%. We know, from studies of large, medium sized, and small cities plus suburbs and rural areas, that population density matters but not so much if the population is 1000 people per square km as opposed to 800 people.
Viral interference makes even less sense at actual COVID infection rates, which were probably much lower than 20% at any given time.
That said, there could be some immune priming going on, where the immune system of a person who's recovered from COVID is super-charged and fights off any infection. This could have been tested through surveillance studies but at the time it actually mattered everyone in charge was a vaccine salesman.
Of course this might work the other way too, that someone who had the flu couldn't get COVID, at least for a while.
The official party line, that the masking and other mitigation methods caused a decline in flu infections is absurd. None were shown to reduce COVID by more than a couple of percent, yet we expect that they were nearly 100% effective in preventing another, similarly transmitted respiratory virus, COVID??
Plus remember the EUA for one of the tests was lifted because the test couldn't distinguish between flu and covid???
Plus the financial incentives for diagnosing, abusing, and killing COVID patients??
The simplest answer is also the correct one. 2020 was perhaps a very bad flu season and just about everyone who died from influenza, like the millions with "six or more|" serious comorbidities in the CDC data, was categorized as a COVID death.
PS I am not an epidemiologist or medical professional. My PhD is in organic chemistry.
I think it's important that only a small minority of people ever develop symptomatic respiratory infections at a given time. The hard ceiling, judging from German fever gauge data, seems to be around 10%, in the depths of winter. In the spring it's generally much lower. To this comes the evidence of challenge studies, which often have intriguing results. i.e., squirting SARS-2 up the noses of immune-naive volunteers yields only 50% infection rates.
So, I think most of the time, most people are simply invulnerable to infection from many respiratory viruses; and, that the small number of remaining vulnerable respiratory tracts can be kicked out of the susceptibles pool for a time, perhaps for the whole season, by infection. Interferon has been floated as the mechanism here, but I suspect there are others.
Empirical (observational) evidence for an interference effect is pretty strong. Studies on the 2009 Swine Flu are especially interesting, because most places had no hygiene measures to speak of, and nevertheless other hCoVs were broadly suppressed. The interlocking seasonality of different viruses also suggests interference: Why is rhinovirus in season in the fall and the spring, why is influenza in season just after the solstice, why are hCoVs, RSV and some others in season at the solstice?
That's very interesting. Is it possible that everyone has a very low level of infection by various viruses pretty much all the time, but they only run wild when certain conditions are met within the person? Sort of like you always "have" 4-5 different flus at the same time, but you only develop symptoms or even a noticeable immune response when something happens that allows one of those flus to start reproducing so rapidly your body kicks in a serious response? If so, that might allow for viruses to compete for dominance within the various niches within a human, and thus a human population over time, based on how well they can ride that edge of reproducing while not doing it so much they trigger a crack down by the immune system.
I really have very little idea of how these things work, but apparently it is still a bit of a mystery to medicine in general?
I suspect that many of us constantly carry a range of viruses in our mucosa, waiting for the immune system to fail occassionally.
There are studies that indicate that loads of people are infected but completely healthy.
indeed.
Whoa Nelly Flo! That's not what TheScience tells us. When you are infected you are going to die! Asymptomatic spread! Thyphoid Mary!
This study is also interesting in this context: "Recent influenza vaccination is associated with a significant reduction in the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 severity."
https://twitter.com/kbehemoth/status/1658805426274664456?s=46&t=zhHtCQkPvhvRbIKKMDepNg
Maybe I'm just getting hung up on the terminology. Virus competition sounds like the viruses are duking it out; that COVID is more formidable in some way than influenza, so it "defeats" the other virus. I am open to the idea that the ***immunity*** provided by exposure to one virus confers a generalized protective immune response that works with other pathogens. This raises the question, though, of synchronicity and order of events, and also why does flu not do the same for COVID?
I had this idea 3 years ago, in light of the flu's disappearance, that influenza infection was a REQUIREMENT for severe COVID -- that you had to have both to get really sick. I doubt anyone has looked into this.
Now, given the approximately 30 days of protection afforded by the big three vaccines, I'm thinking that maybe close to 100% of the (limited) protection from the vaccines is due to the same type of generalized immune response just from taking the shot -- any shot.
Had I been in charge of clinical development the first study I would have conducted was injection of the blank mRNA vehicle. The next study would be testing for COVID infection after injection of an mRNA coding for human albumin, a common blood protein.
I'll bet either one of those shots, or both, was good for 30 days of general protection from viruses.
I know it's a nutso idea, but how else do you deal with a vaccine that only provides immunity for a few weeks? Forget the circulating antibodies, they come and go.
who says flu doesn’t do the same for covid? the effect seems to be mutual.
If they fought equally hard there'd be a lot more reported flu cases. The stats I saw were at least 20:1 with flu cases near summer baseline.
If they were "equally good" it wouldn't necessarily mean half the cases would be of each. You'd have to factor in relative transmissivity (is that a word?). That effect could change linearly, multiplicatively, or exponentially.
But still nobody explains how viruses fight one another. BTW doesn't the flu season begin in November, and didn't we not know we were f****d until March? Maybe flu disappearance was a coincidence?
Still the easiest explanation for otherwise "fighting viruses": COVID "season" started earlier, maybe as early as September, 2019. (Not noticing is not so strange if you believe, as I do, that no more people died in 2020 than in 2019). By the time the flu season started COVID was in full swing. Nobody caught the flu because so many people had already been RECENTLY infected with COVID. Their immune systems were still stoked, easily fought off the flu. You can add to this fantasy that coronavirus induces an immune response to competing viruses, including influenza.
Or you can believe that flu deaths were manipulated, as were virtually ALL data they've released on this.
And if you were a conspiracy theorist, which I'm sure neither you nor your readers are, you might entertain one side of a conversation I dreamed up: "Hey maybe let's hold off on the flu for a couple of years. Flu is so boring. They get the shot they still croak. One of our guys in China has come up with something really interesting. A new plague for a new year. The year of the raccoon dog."
Whichever one is more transmissible (transmissibility being determined in no small part by prior immunity) gets to the susceptible hosts first and knocks them out of the pool of infectibles.
I’ve posted many times about why the reclassified influenza scenario doesn’t work. The only reason you find viral interference implausible, is that it makes no sense in light of SIR. But, almost nothing about the way viruses behave is explained by SIR, which has totally failed to account for everything from virus seasonality to the interlocking patterns of infection noticed by flu surveillance, etc. Plainly, SIR overestimates the number of susceptibles, takes an overly narrow view of immunity, among other things.
"I am not a biologist" but I believe transmissibility is an intrinsic property of the virus, immunity an intrinsic property of the host, and transmission a consequence of exposure plus the interplay of those other two properties.
Everyone keeps mentioning SIR, but I don't know what that is.
In Dec 22 and Jan 23 however we had an infection rate of around 80% in China, with over 1 billion people getting infected and most ending up in bed with a fever for 4-7 days. Admittedly this took place under extremely unusual circumstances caused by the sudden end to the government's previous superhuman efforts to suppress transmission. Nonetheless, it would seem to contradict your 10% hard ceiling, no?
i don’t really believe the 80% number, but even if true, it merely suggests the ceiling is provided by regular exposure to prior viruses
That is curious. Do you think that we and the many others who reported on events at the time fabricated the numbers?
Despite the lack of official statistics, it's not like there was any shortage of information. We published several English-language articles on events during that period and the 80% number is probably on the low side. Within 14 days of the government's surrender to reality on November 30th, hundreds of friends, colleagues and business partners all across China all fell sick. The streets and subways in many cities were empty, while HR departments from most companies reported close to 100% infection rates. In fact, with the exception of the small group of people who were immune due to a prior infection and a few people protected by using HCQ + zinc as a prophylactic, I don't know a single person who did not get infected at the time.
A lot of people were obviously sick. How successful the current Covid wave proves to be will say a lot about how high infections rates actually were in the Dec/Jan wave.
You make many good point in questioning the mechanism of viral interference, but surely the evidence is there to see . . . ?
I wonder whether we as 21st century humans ascribe too much to our alleged ability to understand the world completely. We observe a phenomenon, and insist it can't possibly be happening because we can't explain why it could be happening. Therefore something else must be happening other than what we think we see.
I think that's a pretty good heuristic in many, many areas, but one thing I have learned in the last three years is we know a lot less about disease, and especially the immune system, than laymen like me were led to believe pre-pandemic.
The problem is the SIR model of virus transmission. It's true that viral interference doesn't make any sense in the susceptible-infected-recovered paradigm. But, a lot of things don't make sense in this paradigm, for example it can't even explain why waves of infection collapse, or how they start. It's just wrong.
OK, as a Youtuber likes to say, "change my mind."
How does viral interference happen? How does influenza know not to tread where COVID once roamed?
How does a disease that's been around for thousands or millions of years just conveniently disappear when a new virus shows up?
Change my mind!
I don't know. I'm just a (shade tree) mechanical engineer.
But when it comes to medicine, simply asserting the apparent absence of a well understood cause for an observed effect does not necessarily mean the effect isn't happening. I suppose it's true in most cases. But it's hubristic to insist it must be true in all cases, especially when talking about the human immune system, which I at least am convinced we barely understand at all (and the less meddling with healthy immune systems the better).
Edit: As eugyppius suggests above, it may well be the model we (and you) are using is simply wrong. We don't yet have a better one, but the current one is broken.
Consider, for a moment, how Newtonian physics could no longer explain the workings of the universe the more we studied nature, so a new model had to be developed. Imagine what it must have been like to be a physicist at the turn of the last century.
You can't prove that Santa Claus does not exist, or that Joe Biden is not actually a giraffe. If you say that Santa lives all I ask is to show me proof. Show me a video of him leaving his house and flying a herd of reindeer to the North Pole. You are the one making a claim. It's not up to me to prove you're wrong, it's up to you to provide evidence that you're right. Get it?
I have no idea what you are on about here, but since you mention Santa Claus, if a pile of wrapped presents appear every Christmas morning under the Christmas tree, and Santa Claus is the only explanation anyone has for how they got there, then that's proof Santa Claus exists.
That, as far as I can tell, is where we are when it comes to the human immune system. We have no clue.
Yeah, they call that a "myth." If you can replace "Santa" with "giraffe" or "magical fairy" then your explanation is no better than no explanation.
Quantum physicists used math and what was known about classical mechanics, then experimented to prove their theories. If I told Einstein that I didn't believe in the photoelectric effect he would have shown me the evidence.
OK, I think the disappearance of influenza in 2020 and 2021 was due to global warming.
(I don't really I'm just busting)
Prove me wrong!
If I may offer a literary quote: open link and search for "sancta".
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/4363/pg4363-images.html
While a bit wordy as a 19th century German philospher is prone to be, the message of that paragraph is simply that humans, to a large degree, prefer incomplete, incorrect, or possibly entirely false, perspectives of reality. He treats this topic in depth elsewhere in the book.
My boy Michael “I’d rather have HIV than Covid” Olesen is at it again.
https://twitter.com/maolesen/status/1660991806392156161?s=46
I spent first 18 months of pandemic in his private data group on FB before discovering Twitter and SubStack - it was fascinating to see the hysteria in such an intimate private setting.
So many screen shotted bad takes of his I have saved in a “follow up next year” folder, but, unfortunately, got banned for not towing the line.
I can't express how much I revile this loser.
I’ve got a treasure trove on him. I was in a bubble not realizing there were other people who thought like me for over a year (had never once thought to make a Twitter account).
So I basically just joined Facebook groups which claimed to be data oriented, but was almost always immediately kicked out for suggesting rationality of each and every one.
To Olesens credit he tolerated me longer than most - made it to July 2021 before the ban.
He shares this article, hysterical that long Covid is coming for kids, and me quoting another part of same article got me excommunicated.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/kids-get-long-covid-too/
My final post and his “bye”. Hilarious.
https://imgur.com/a/4zSBk1i
I find Peter Hotez to be a greater Ding ,Peter has built a decades long career on virus paranoia while the Dinger is basically a rookie.Starting to wonder is the medical profession is just a hive of narcissistic sociopaths.
No, just the ones who pursue large Twitter followings. Most of the rest probably just, you know, practice medicine.
OMG now I know why I saw 2 masked people this morning ! One of the store employees, and a single man in a car ! they are WP readers. I thought no one ever read that rag anymore, but now we know who do. And we have to learn that from a German professor LOL. Thanks for clearing that up E !
And, if you look closely, these mask devotees often look and move like the walking dead. I then wonder what number of booster they could possibly be on.
My friend recounted to me from her chat with another friend (jabbed 5times); “I caught COVID and I was deathly ill! Can you imagine how much sicker I would have been if I didn’t have the vaccines?” Arrrrgggghhhhh
dad at 5 jabs, has barely worn masks unless where he could not enter without it (early on stores, then only hospital and care facility). Always hated it.
I laughed out loud when I saw that single man in his car, though, just could not help myself. Looks so ridiculous, I wanted to ask him if he really wanted to look like a dumb person.
I noticed an uptick at my supermarket too- now I know why! Will these losers ever be forced to join reality- I’m fuming!
well now we know where they got the message from LOL. I had no idea there were still WP readers after all that happened, but some people will never learn. Eternal hybernation
Most influenza strains have a CFR of about one percent among those one and younger. C19 is effectively zero.
Thankfully I am immune from infection because I don't have a TV.
It's almost as though experts don't actually know very much at all about virus and transmission thereof.
Terrain theory anyone - Must surely play a part in all this farrago - where are all the dead Chinese that the Guardian repeatedly told us would be the inevitable consequence of them abandoning Lockdown theory?
Question for Eugyppius - what does he think of Dr David Martin's take on the Moderna patents and that covid 1 and 2 were bio-weapons?
Anyone with a scrap of sanity and the ability to plow through the media BS knows this is all nonsense. We have heard over the last 3.3 years all the endless prognostications that 10's of millions are going to die from this covid or that covid virus. Not more than a few handfuls actually did die from anything called covid.
If there were to be 10's of millions dying from some virus or something else, it would kill off the entire planet. How could you stop it? WHO, the CDC, FDA? All would be CLUELESS because they only know how to manage FAKE viruses and FAKE pandemics by using FAKE vaccines. And over the last 3 years, they all screwed even that up monstrously.
Aside from this post, I wanted to wish you well as you move into the next phase of your life. I have truly enjoyed reading your substack and your great sense of humor along the way. I wasn't able to comment on your post yesterday as it was protected by a pay wall. You have been a breath of fresh air in the stifling atmosphere of Covid fog.
Not "Western Media", it's "Mason Media":
In the USA, some believe in a “deep state” conspiracy involving intelligence agencies, corrupt politicians, military industrial complex, Big Pharma agency capture, etc. Yet, they can’t explain how this “USA deep state” also works in synchronicity, within hundreds of countries, where there’s no FBI, CIA, HHS, etc. Clockwork coordination of COVID genocidal response proved the existence of a “global deep state”, despite there is no global government!
There are no political or economic structures “formally” supporting such global governance. Then, who could run a government in the shadows without no mainstream media exposing it? Who controls global media in order to guarantee global censorship? Who pays political parties and political careers in hundreds of countries to control global politics?
Most still have doubts if Freemasonry (which worships Lucifer) wasn't behind the scenes. Why? masonic secrecy. Why do they need secrecy to the extent of murdering those who violate it? Is it because they are covering good deeds? Not goodness but evil needs secrecy in order to grow unchecked!
In most countries, worship still had restrictions when everything else was opened in full. Casinos were packed in Vegas while churches lock-downed. Why were churches the last to recover freedom? Is there a war between the city of Satan or the civilization of God?
Not explainable through money, power and corruption
“What makes a person want to control and hoard? What makes a person choose wealth or power or accumulating “stuff” over supporting each other thrive? Why would members of our own species want to destroy all life on this planet?
We aren’t dealing with your average Joe’s. They are multi-generations of inbred, disconnected, mentally unstable psychos whose entire existence has been destruction, murder and chaos.” 1
Think about it. If you were a billionaire: when is enough, enough? Is enough never enough? Instead of enjoying life with your loved ones, why would you spend most of your billions with a mafia obsessed to cull humans, risking a revolution and being jailed or executed? This is way larger than a psychonspiracy.
Why would Facebook Zuckerberg give 450 million away to rig the 2020 elections in favor of Biden and democrat governors when he didn’t get that money back from the government? Think: even if you were a billionaire fanatic of the Democratic Party, why would you spend 450 million dollars in bribery, risking jail? And 450 million doesn’t even count on what the Zuck Bucks bought in prior elections and 2024.
Why would a foreigner like Soros, who doesn’t even visit the USA, give away billions to the Democratic Party?
In 2010, masons Warren Buffet (who funded Microsoft) and Bill Gates founded The Giving Pledge to manage the money of any billionaire who, just like them, was a figurehead of the masonic mafia and had to return them the dirty money made from monopoly, usury, insider information, sabotage, moles, government grants and contracts, tax credits and arranged bids, stolen patents, mason or corrupt judges favoring them (e.g. when Zuckerberg stole Facebook), counterfeit money and laundering, drugs, etc.
This is not a coincidence: “Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway “was a seasoned user of tax credits”2 “Bill Gates of Microsoft, Jeff Bezos of Amazon, and Warren Buffett control more wealth than the 160 million poorest Americans combined. And Buffett doesn’t mind working the system to keep it that way. His net worth as of January is $87 billion, but Buffett says he paid only $1.8 million in taxes in 2015—a mere 0.002 percent of his wealth. Buffett takes full advantage of tax loopholes. He uses Berkshire Hathaway, a valuable tax shelter, for his investments. The Republican tax bill will save Berkshire an estimated $37 billion, because the firm habitually defers its tax liabilities, which will now be paid off at a much lower rate.”3
Figurehead money had to be put to use under the mason agenda. Not only tax elusion explains why “400 highest tax-paying Americans donated between 8 percent and 11 percent of their income in 2010”. By 2019, the Pledge had raised more than 500 billion from 200 out of 2000 global billionaires. 1 It could now be over a trillion dollars (1000 billion), considering that the 2 founders gave over 100 billion, then it’s less than 1 billion for the rest, if we discount the top 5 donors.
Living Pledge hall of shame: Mark Zuckerberg, Paul Allen (co-founder of Microsoft), Michael R. Bloomberg, Elon Musk, David Rockefeller (d. 2017), Jeff and Marieke Rothschild, Carl Icahn, Michael Milken (junk bonds scam), ...
They are not philanthropists (from greek, human-friends) but misanthropists (human-haters). They are not giving away their money: they are returning to Satan the stolen money to programs designed to exterminate us. Thank you but, no thank you! Their power is so obvious: their money is not taxed even if it’s destined to the common bad instead of the common good.
Why is it that so many billionaires are evil? It’s hard to believe s that money corrupts everyone: there are many examples that prove it doesn’t. It looks like there is a rigged system that searches to corrupt them (Epstein) and only allows the most evil to become billionaires by destroying the competition with unchecked illegal practices.
If it wasn’t for the freemason cabal, why would IBM masons give pimple college-dropout Bill Gates monopoly to IBM PC? He didn’t even have a software and stole/“bought” it from a Seattle programmer!
More here:
The full PLAN exposed:
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-plan-revealed
16 laws we need to exit Prison Planet
Politics got us in, politics is the way out ... after prayers!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/laws-to-exit-planet-prison
Gates-WHO: vaccines can’t reduce population, except by murdering
Proof: they were never for reducing mortality, only for murdering!
https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/depop-vaccines-no-myth
I don't agree with your conclusions, but you raise interesting questions.
In 1921, the Council on Foreign Relations was founded, to infiltrate and control democracy, by freemasons David Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Herbert Hoover, Allen Dulles, Walter Lippmann and Edward M. House. The impressive 10-thousand members list proves the power grab was successful.1 Since 1921, the CFR has chosen almost every single Secretary of State: they only need to infiltrate or bribe the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (only 11 of 20 members), and influence the Senate.
Similar mason institutions, most with similar names, were founded in over 100 countries, including Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs and the European Council on Foreign Relations2: practically, there’s no war where the CFR isn’t involved on both sides. 3 Their magazine Foreign Affairs is one way they send orders to all members.
In 2018, Wikileaks proved the CFR controlled all mainstream media.4
Hoover, Truman, Eisenhower, Bush father and son, Carter, Clinton, Obama 5 ... some argue that, with few exceptions like JFK and Trump, at least since WWII, all US presidents were freemasons and many CFR. All administrations were filled with thousands of CFR members. 6 The Trump administration was no exception. 7 It’s not a coincidence that Neil M. Gorsuch, CFR Supreme Court Justice appointed by Trump, betrayed conservatives by ruling in favour of homosexual marriage and other New World Order “progressive” agenda.
Another proof of grooming for infiltration: 28 Jun 2019 Democrat Tulsi Gabbard wasn’t renewed the 5 year CFR membership. 8 Because she wouldn’t obey all orders? In 2020, she was still pro-homo-marriage9 and pro-abortion (a basic CFR request) and pro-Biden, but wanted paper ballots, Electoral College, supported Trump in breaking up Big Tech and removing their censorship through section 23010, Glass-Steagall, pro-natalism paid family and medical leave plans up to 12 weeks, less public and defense spending, drug patent breaking, no war.11 That’s probably why she was defamed by Kamala12, Hillary Clinton and mason RINO Mitt Romney.13 In 2021, she questioned Fauci on COVID origin and masks.14 Tulsi was groomed by the WEF in the "Forum of Young Global Leaders" but suddenly was disappeared, and not because of her age: she had turned 38 (41 in 2023), while the “young” freemason Macron (45) is still in the search results. Fremason Trudeau, 51, isn’t, but is listed in weforum.org15, while Tulsi has been erased from there, too, in Apr 2022 (she independized from the Democratic party in Oct 2022).16 Maybe this was the drop that filled the cup: she’s against CBDCs and social scoring.17
https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community
The CFR is just a small piece of a large puzzle of thousands of organizations, trusts and funds, for example:
The Committee of 300
Very well stated, Scientific Progress. It was well coordinated.