It's the friend/enemy distinction. Ordinary people and their petty desires to have social lives, educated children, and prosperity are the enemy. Christians are most definitely the enemy. The Sacred Homo is the friend. It's really that simple.
Everything can be measured through the Intersectionality matrix. The sacred homo is on the 'oppressed' spectrum despite having all nodes of institutional power across the west in his crowded saunas.
Exactly. It's pure Bio-Leninism. The left coalition is made up of criminals, sexual deviants, losers and general freaks. They know they would have no social status in a healthy society, so they're completely loyal to the regime that gives them status.
Not coincidentally, gays are disproportionately represented in the media vs the general public. At least that is my observation after spending more than twenty years in that business.
Americans identify as LGBT. The increase in recent years is highest among young adults (of course). For that reason, I would suspect this number is a bit high; maybe 5% is more realistic. In any case I have zero doubt that the percentage is significantly higher among the media.
Yeah but if you dig in most of that increase is in the B, T, and Q, not the L or G. The B is especially telling as it requires precisely nothing of those who adopt it, but they get to claim all the intersectional benefits.
> Nobody knows: because most gay men are not 'out'.
However, the existence of gay STDs like AIDS and now monkeypox offers us ways to get estimates. Turns out, the stereotypes of where gays are concentrated are accurate.
Not at all: those 'hotspots' are very untypical: most gay men and women are not involved in the 'Metrosexual Gay culture' at all but live quietly in unpretentious suburban circumstances.
So your claim is that there exist large numbers of gay men who are completely in the closet, don't participate in gay culture, don't have sex with other gay men (if they did they would have acquired AIDS from their partners). So basically their "gayness" appears to be nothing more than a figment of your imagination (and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're merely stupid and not lying).
You believe in stereotypes.. look around you. You are acquainted with more gay people than you realize but with your “take” on them theyre most likely going to keep you in the dark! I will tell you where to look with higher percentages than media….1) Catholic clergy, 2) professional sports, 3) the military just to name a few… oh and you dont want to bump into any “gay” motorcycle gangs either..
> I will tell you where to look with higher percentages than media….1) Catholic clergy, 2) professional sports, 3) the military just to name a few
And yet none of those groups were hit hard, or really at all, by AIDS. Almost as if they didn't actually engage in gay sex. Most of those people don't identify as gay either. Almost as if you are simply lying, or at least confusing your sexual fantasies with reality.
And your proof for this assertion can be found where? Tell me, Jim how do YOU recognize gay men and women? I believe you have been brainwashed by the medias own stereotyping of gays which is appallingly stupid. Having actually been a member of the community for over 50 years I can tell you that most gay men and women act quite “normally” except for one thing and that is who they choose to partner with…THATS IT! And that choice is no one elses business…period.. the irony is that this homophobia that persecuted gay people for a thousand years has been driven by arguably the largest ring of pedophiles on the Planet..So called Christian, Muslim and Jewish clergy with the Catholic Church the WORST offenders..and the majority of that has been heterosexual..
"that most gay men and women act quite “normally” except for one thing and that is who they choose to partner with…THATS IT"
Bullshit
"And that choice is no one elses business…period"
Yeah we're way past the lie of "WhAt A gRoWn AdUlT dOeS iN tHeIr bEdRoOm....." You're parading through the streets in fetish gear and pissing in front of kids. Your propaganda is everywhere. You're trying to convert children you sick fucking scum. Your lies won't work any more.
"the irony is that this homophobia that persecuted gay people for a thousand years has been driven by arguably the largest ring of pedophiles on the Planet..So called Christian, Muslim and Jewish clergy with the Catholic Church the WORST offenders"
So this is what this substack really represents eugyppius?? Alias Doe is a hateful fucking idiot. Jeffery Epstein was no gay man and neither are Clinton or tens of thousands of others…the straight fetish community has ten times the participants..hes a moron..
"So this is what this substack really represents eugyppius"
Haha instantly tattles to teacher. It's in the leftists DNA. Fucking children. No I don't represent anything regarding Eugyppius. I'm just a guy who reads his substack and occasionally comments. I'm sure Eugyppius hates me. Stop playing this stupid guilt by association game to get people who disagree with you silenced.
1. The "staight" "fetish" "community" isn't parading around cities pissing in front of kids. They're not trying to get kids to castrate themselves.
2. "Straight" people are 99% of humanity. Naming two famous pedos means nothing.
3. Talking about the "straight" "fetish" "community" is just stupid whataboutism. Fuck them and fuck you too.
Oh my such a brave “man” hiding behind a pseudonym and trolling people who try to have an intelligent discussion.calling names and condemning me without even knowing a damn thing about me. If theres one thing Ive discovered thru the decades its that the biggest homophobes like you are just closet cases themselves. No man or woman who is secure in their own sexuality gives a damn what others do in their private affairs but those in hiding are vociferous and abusive…just like you.
Gay proclivity is often a product of institutional life: single sex boarding schools, military units, jails etc.
Farmers boys are far more likely to have sex with farm animals.
Most human societies make normal heterosexual sex incredibly hard to get : by restricting access of young men to females except in highly controlled situations.
From what I recall, the negotiation of sex when I was younger was kind of like a job interview (albeit with more ear-drum exploding music and darkness). The trick was that you displayed supreme confidence for the employer, and got her to believe that every single thing she said was endlessly fascinating, and all her musical tastes were cool.
Of course, this was back in the 90s. Maybe it's all jail-and-farm sex or bust now.
I have no idea what it is like now. I was lucky to hit the age of 20 in 1973: a time when liberated young women literally threw themselves at me: I really had very little seduction to do. It was fun. Pretty much like playing tennis, a different partner every night if you felt so inclined.
"...liberated young women literally threw themselves at me."
Sounds painful.
Personally, I liked putting a little elbow-grease into getting laid, back in the day. It honed me for the battle against the final video game boss: my beloved wife, with all of her variously adorable and infuriating qualities.
I tend to marry a woman who can cook great food and make great babies, and screw a woman who likes to screw. I just go with the flow: if you are very lucky you might find one woman who hits all the sweet spots. I'm still looking , haha!
Re your last paragraph, what are the reasons human societies do that? Interesting turn of phrase there, too, Rob: "access of young 𝒎𝒆𝒏 to 𝒇𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒍𝒆𝒔..." Those 𝒇𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒍𝒆𝒔 are girls and women.
What about an honest discussion about prostitution? Is that a legitimate escape valve for testosterone fuelled men, or just a form of abuse of vulnerable females/girls/women ?
Pretty sure mon$ey pox includes a lot of whipping (& whipped) boys, Dennis. If this new “pox” is almost exclusively w/in the gay / fetish / orgy community, & it absolutely is, how is pointing that out some sort of scapegoating?
In the US during the height of the lockdowns, I believe it was lord fauci who said that things like orgies were OK, as well as violent protests. It has NOTHING to do with a virus.
Also... gays, as well as muslims, minorities and the violent left, and protected classes in the US. They are allowed to live under a completely different set of rules and are exempt from laws.
To make it even more perverse they listed ways to engage in human sexual contact with one another with masks, gloves, distancing, keeping certain items of clothing on while engaging in coitus, Etc and all the 'sexy talk' detail you would expect, as if created by two artificial intelligence computer programs doing 'sexy talk' with each other before routers and modems actually become inserted. These people are insane.
Yep. There were public health PSAs going out explaining how to use glory holes safely in the COVID era. At least, I'm pretty sure that wasn't satire. Hard to tell these days.
" Hard to tell these days" I go to bed most nights suspecting that we are all players in some kind of satirical farce - and wake up in the morning knowing its real.
It is a doctrine of some streams of the gnostic faith that all of physical reality is actually just the thought of one insane mind called the demiurge, who wondered to itself, "What would a reality separated from God look like?" Then it explored the results of this question from many different viewpoints. Each of us is one of those interactive viewpoints, apparently separate from each other due to our current perspective. When the demiurge is satisfied it has "seen it all" and has the answer to its original question, the construct known as "reality" will no longer be needed and simply disappear.
I remember reading an article about safety measures and one of the experts stated that glory holes were a safer form of sex for preventing Covid transmission because of the barrier to respiration and respiratory droplets. I assume one would still have to engage in diligent hand, penis and mouth washing (or vagina washing for women who engage in such behavior--we need to be inclusive and nondiscriminatory). Of course, it might not be as safe for monkeypox. Just be sure to ask your local pharmacy chain for their smallpox vaccine, I'm sure it's one of the 15 or so they offer.
Actually Fauci, in an interview, when asked about using dating services and hooking up with someone that way during the pandemic, while he was promoting lockdowns, replied that it depended how much risk you were willing to take.
Have you purposely omitted those who may use their feet to elicit and receive sexual excitement? Let’s forget it this time: presuming that this was an innocent mistake and not some vicious and ruthless de-humanising of a life affirming and brave group.
In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking, but heaven knows, anything goes. Of course with a foot fetish one has to be careful of athlete's foot turning into jock itch, or vice versa, although there are easy treatments for that. And let's not forget eargasms.
If you watch the PBS series I, Claudius, he wants the republic to come back. In the series, although people say they want the republic to return, they don't do anything to make that happen. Perhaps we're at that point; we want things, but are not generally motivated to make them happen.
Minorities live under exactly the same laws as everyone else, and in the wide sweep of history, have tended to be more likely than others to end up being lynched by the mob. They merit our sympathy and support:
And as for bananas, and republics, I am lucky enough to reside in a Constitutional Monarchy, so that is your problem, not mine.
Is "stigma and discrimination" ~really~ as dangerous as ANY virus? Plague? Ebola? Anthrax? Unless of course you want to "stigmatize and discriminate" against the unvaccinated.....
Sadly, no one wants to offend any member of the LGBTQ "community" these days by suggesting anything is wrong with their various forms of behavior. Drag Queen story hour is not OK for little children and it needs to be said out loud. Gay men randomly sodomizing one another is probably not healthy after what we learned from the AID's period. Maybe it's time for "Normal" to make a come back in our culture or what is acceptable and what is not ... ? Maybe.
I have a whole theory about why deviants-- and that's what they are-- demand complete and utter acceptance, and even celebration of their deviancy.
They know what they are doing is against nature. They also know it's against God's commands. So to ease their mind, the require EVERYONE to tell them 24/7 that what they are doing is right and good.and perfect Because they know their actions are wrong.
It's fair to say that when you witness a taboo emerge separately in different cultures separated by oceans, there's a reason for it. Generally speaking, densely populated human societies were historically not very fond of sodomy.
We like to imagine we're much more enlightened than preceding generations, but we happen to have the benefit of antibiotics and antiviral drugs that can turn death sentences into minor inconveniences. It's easy to be tolerant with 0.5% infant mortality rates and a life expectancy of 90 years. As the pathogens evolve antibiotic resistance and new ones jump the species barrier and spread around the world within days, I think public attitudes will eventually shift again.
"Gay men randomly sodomizing one another is probably not healthy" -- YA THINK? Of course it's not healthy. Desperation over this among "allies" is the reason you get things like Jordan Peterson, of all people, talking to Dave Rubin about how he and his "husband" can artificially create a healthy family life for the children they artificially created. Marriage and fatherhood (in some form, real or more abstract) are key to society and to healthy life for nearly all men. If stigma is all that holds back gay men and lesbians, then "gay marriage" gives people attracted to the same sex -- not all of whom are promiscuous or exhibitionists -- the chance to show it. But it seems that the vast majority don't want to be "just like married couples" and I think that many who have gay and lesbian family members and who desperately want this for them are finding out that erasing stigma is bringing out a lot more of myriad deviant behaviors than it counters.
Women have been told that careers and promiscuity are better than marriage and motherhood.
Men have been diminished in society and are told they are replaceable, which have turned many-- understandably-- against young women.
As for the families of gay/lesbians, I agree. The families want it normalized so they are not seen as failures, aka parents of children who are deviants.
Yep. When anything goes, nothing matters. There is no drawing a line on this stuff. Once we gave in and accepted everything as being Okay and normal, there was never going to be another line. That's why you don't negotiate certain things. This is one of them.
My younger sister just finally came out of the closet (the rest of us already knew) last month @ the age of 61 . Certainly isn’t going to make me an advocate for gay rights.
A few months ago these experts were touting a 10-30% case fatality rate for monkeypox.
The UK has nearly 2k cases and so far not even a single death. If they want to get those CFR stats bumped up Covid style, they're going to have to pull a pretty severe about-turn on social distancing in nursing homes
You know, that sounds like employment discrimination. Or like 'no Jews allowed' in this country club. Wonder that no heterosexual healthworker has filed a lawsuit. But then, I guess some people are equaller than others.
The way to ascend our social hierarchy is to correctly anticipate what the group consensus is going to be and to steer clear of societal taboos. The people who are unusually good at that thus end up in positions of power and then they use those positions of power to tilt the playing field more in favor of their own personality traits.
That's largely what wokeism amounts to. A kind of endless game of social nuances, linguistic absurdities and escalating taboos that autists and working class men can't stomach. It's designed to be unpalatable for the kind of people they wish to keep out of power and the hypocrisy you run into everywhere is more of a feature, than a bug.
The words used to describe minorities change almost as rapidly as the dress code of Gilded age socialites and the penalty for getting it wrong (ie saying "colored people" instead of "people of color") is so high precisely because competition for status has become so intense.
Of course plenty of people will miscalculate and remove themselves from competition for the upper echelons by wrongly anticipating group consensus. As an example, New York politicians would dine in Chinese restaurants in February 2020 to "combat anti-Asian racism" and columnists would write about how the "Chinese human rights violations" are unthinkable in the West, or how we should worry about the flu instead of the new coronavirus.
The public health bureaucrats are not too retarded to understand this is mainly spreading through gay orgies and they're not trying to bring back the good ol' days of 25% infant mortality rates either. Rather, the ranks are filled with people whose primary objective is to promote their own position within the structure and the way to do that is generally to play it safe.
Even if group consensus eventually does undergo the kind of shock shift we saw in march 2020 and settles on "People of Buttsex should stop sodomizing each other until this is over", anticipating that consensus and amplifying it yourself will serve your career no benefit, as it's so painfully obvious. They thus generally prefer to play it safe and go for "homophobia bad, monkeypox is a racist word, too many pictures of black people in the media", because that's the sort of message that has a good track record when it comes to advancing careers and little chance of coming back to haunt you.
Nice handle...combining Blake and Tolkien. I've been Palamambron for 20 years on email, poker, chess, anything on the internet, just because nobody else was doing it.
I, for one, am not sick of these monkeypox posts. They are hilarious! Any fair-minded observer (a distinct minority in the Woke West) should be outraged at the hypocrisy.
And what's with this "men who have sex with other men" stuff? I would think the Venn Diagram of "gay men" and "men who have sex with other men" is damned near a complete overlap. (The sliver that is not is "lonely, drunken sailors out to sea...")
"Men who have sex with men" (or "MSM") is a real term used in sociology and other fields, because some men will have sex with other men while not thinking of themselves as gay or "bisexual." Supposedly, a pretty hefty percentage of men who go to, say, a park bathroom to be serviced by other men then go home to their wives and kids -- or at least that was said a few decades ago when I read it. Maybe they were lying, or maybe (like Kinsey) the people who did the studies found a bunch of perverts and said they were typical. But that's where the term comes from.
I believe the 'men who have sex with other men' terminology was formulated because not all of these men 'identify' as gay (that word 'identify' again! Always causing trouble).
Nevertheless, as any self-respecting gay man of a certain age would no doubt tell them: 'BUT YOU ARE, Blanche, YOU ARE!'
"Gay" is a political term now. When Peter Thiel supported Trump, some publication(s) claimed that he might have sex with other men, but he was definitely not gay.
Sounds like Roy Cohn's rant from 'Angels in America':
"Roy Cohn: Your problem, Henry, is that you are hung up on words, on labels: "gay", "homosexual", "lesbian." You think they tell you who a person sleeps with, but they don't tell you that. Like all labels, they refer to one thing and one thing only: Where does a person so identified fit in the food chain? In the pecking order. Not ideology or sexual taste, but something much simpler: clout. Who owes me favors. Not who I fuck or who fucks me, but who will pick up the phone when I call. To someone who doesn't understand this, homosexual is what I am because I sleep with men, but this is wrong. Homosexuals are not men who sleep with other men. Homosexuals are men who, in 15 years of trying, can't get a pissant anti-discrimination bill through City Council. They are men who know nobody, and who nobody knows. Now, Henry, does that sound like me?
Henry: No.
Roy Cohn: No. I have clout — lots! I pick up that phone, dial 15 numbers, and guess who's on the other end of the line? In under five minutes, Henry.
Henry: The President.
Roy Cohn: Better — his wife.
Henry: I'm impressed.
Roy Cohn: I don't want you to be impressed, Henry — I want you to understand. This is not sophistry, and this is not hypocrisy. This is reality. I have sex with men, but unlike nearly every other man of which this is true, I bring the guy I'm screwing to Washington, and President Reagan smiles at us and shakes his hand, because what I am is defined entirely by who I am. Roy Cohn is not a homosexual. Roy Cohn is a heterosexual man who fucks around with guys."
Black belt in semantics with a third dan in mental gymnastics.
“This is like during the pandemic, when the religious were gently asked to “reconsider considering” attending worship services, and nobody was arrested or fined and no churches were closed or anything crazy like that“
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Mustn’t ask the homosexuals to sacrifice anything, saving Grandma is the children’s job.
"...while protecting human rights by fighting stigma and discrimination." I'm sick of being hearing and reading this. We all SHOULD discriminate between normal and egregious behavior. Men who frequent bathhouses for anonymous sodomy (and other things) with multiple other men are behaving in a way that every sane adult -- male, female, married, single, whatever -- should condemn. We SHOULD have a stigma against this. The idea that anything any adult wants to do is fine as long as the other consents is not only false, it's obviously false. Not everything one person can get another person to consent to is okay. It''s not "discrimination" to say so.
It's the friend/enemy distinction. Ordinary people and their petty desires to have social lives, educated children, and prosperity are the enemy. Christians are most definitely the enemy. The Sacred Homo is the friend. It's really that simple.
Everything can be measured through the Intersectionality matrix. The sacred homo is on the 'oppressed' spectrum despite having all nodes of institutional power across the west in his crowded saunas.
Indeed, and 'oppressed' just translates to 'friend' on the ruling class side of things.
Exactly. It's pure Bio-Leninism. The left coalition is made up of criminals, sexual deviants, losers and general freaks. They know they would have no social status in a healthy society, so they're completely loyal to the regime that gives them status.
Exactly. They are criminally insane psychopaths or sociopaths. Narcissistic , delusional, gaslighting degenerates.
No more allowing PC misnomers!
Which is normalizing lies, misnomers, delusional thinking , emotionalism as a normal way to behave in society.
Look at the trajectory of Political Correctness.
It went from compassion, to say something about Obama’s politics, you’re a racist.
To all white people are racist.
To all white men are a domestic terrorist…..
On and on with dangerous lies to divide and conquer, from within.
No more remaining silent , allowing insanity another inch.
I spoke up and stood my ground before I was resigned from my job in higher education. And I refused to put my “”pronouns” in my signature.
They didn’t like it. They didn’t like me.
And I didn’t mind not being liked for what is right.
In fact, it became very amusing because everything I said or did was based in logic and delivered with professionalism.
They were unable to shame me, no matter how hard they tried.
Brilliant!
Ruling class using mental illness as a weapon to destroy humanity
That is perfect and I’m stealing it.
Concise and spot on
Please do
Well now they also have nodes on their persons. 😬
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Oh, now this élan assessment gets a follow. 💯
With friends like these, who needs enemas?
I see what you did there.
I guess you could say I was reaching for the "low hanging fruit."
I'll show myself out.
Reaching, or reach-arounding?
Hahahaha!
Not coincidentally, gays are disproportionately represented in the media vs the general public. At least that is my observation after spending more than twenty years in that business.
Nobody knows: because most gay men are not 'out'. Actually many men who have sex with men are supposedly happily married with two kids.
Perhaps. Gallup polling finds about 7% of
Americans identify as LGBT. The increase in recent years is highest among young adults (of course). For that reason, I would suspect this number is a bit high; maybe 5% is more realistic. In any case I have zero doubt that the percentage is significantly higher among the media.
Yeah but if you dig in most of that increase is in the B, T, and Q, not the L or G. The B is especially telling as it requires precisely nothing of those who adopt it, but they get to claim all the intersectional benefits.
> Nobody knows: because most gay men are not 'out'.
However, the existence of gay STDs like AIDS and now monkeypox offers us ways to get estimates. Turns out, the stereotypes of where gays are concentrated are accurate.
Not at all: those 'hotspots' are very untypical: most gay men and women are not involved in the 'Metrosexual Gay culture' at all but live quietly in unpretentious suburban circumstances.
So your claim is that there exist large numbers of gay men who are completely in the closet, don't participate in gay culture, don't have sex with other gay men (if they did they would have acquired AIDS from their partners). So basically their "gayness" appears to be nothing more than a figment of your imagination (and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're merely stupid and not lying).
Yes.
> Not coincidentally, gays are disproportionately represented in the media vs the general public.
I've always wondered why this is the case. It appears to predate the gay lib movement. Some theories I came up with:
1) Gays being flamboyant prefer jobs where they get to be in front of a camera.
2) Without families to take care off, gays have more time and energy to devote to office politics.
3) The powers that be prefer blackmailable people for these kinds of positions.
You believe in stereotypes.. look around you. You are acquainted with more gay people than you realize but with your “take” on them theyre most likely going to keep you in the dark! I will tell you where to look with higher percentages than media….1) Catholic clergy, 2) professional sports, 3) the military just to name a few… oh and you dont want to bump into any “gay” motorcycle gangs either..
> You believe in stereotypes
Most stereotypes are based on reality.
> I will tell you where to look with higher percentages than media….1) Catholic clergy, 2) professional sports, 3) the military just to name a few
And yet none of those groups were hit hard, or really at all, by AIDS. Almost as if they didn't actually engage in gay sex. Most of those people don't identify as gay either. Almost as if you are simply lying, or at least confusing your sexual fantasies with reality.
Eugine is correct on this debate. He has the better arguments.
And your proof for this assertion can be found where? Tell me, Jim how do YOU recognize gay men and women? I believe you have been brainwashed by the medias own stereotyping of gays which is appallingly stupid. Having actually been a member of the community for over 50 years I can tell you that most gay men and women act quite “normally” except for one thing and that is who they choose to partner with…THATS IT! And that choice is no one elses business…period.. the irony is that this homophobia that persecuted gay people for a thousand years has been driven by arguably the largest ring of pedophiles on the Planet..So called Christian, Muslim and Jewish clergy with the Catholic Church the WORST offenders..and the majority of that has been heterosexual..
"that most gay men and women act quite “normally” except for one thing and that is who they choose to partner with…THATS IT"
Bullshit
"And that choice is no one elses business…period"
Yeah we're way past the lie of "WhAt A gRoWn AdUlT dOeS iN tHeIr bEdRoOm....." You're parading through the streets in fetish gear and pissing in front of kids. Your propaganda is everywhere. You're trying to convert children you sick fucking scum. Your lies won't work any more.
"the irony is that this homophobia that persecuted gay people for a thousand years has been driven by arguably the largest ring of pedophiles on the Planet..So called Christian, Muslim and Jewish clergy with the Catholic Church the WORST offenders"
This is ridiculously false.
So this is what this substack really represents eugyppius?? Alias Doe is a hateful fucking idiot. Jeffery Epstein was no gay man and neither are Clinton or tens of thousands of others…the straight fetish community has ten times the participants..hes a moron..
"So this is what this substack really represents eugyppius"
Haha instantly tattles to teacher. It's in the leftists DNA. Fucking children. No I don't represent anything regarding Eugyppius. I'm just a guy who reads his substack and occasionally comments. I'm sure Eugyppius hates me. Stop playing this stupid guilt by association game to get people who disagree with you silenced.
1. The "staight" "fetish" "community" isn't parading around cities pissing in front of kids. They're not trying to get kids to castrate themselves.
2. "Straight" people are 99% of humanity. Naming two famous pedos means nothing.
3. Talking about the "straight" "fetish" "community" is just stupid whataboutism. Fuck them and fuck you too.
Oh my such a brave “man” hiding behind a pseudonym and trolling people who try to have an intelligent discussion.calling names and condemning me without even knowing a damn thing about me. If theres one thing Ive discovered thru the decades its that the biggest homophobes like you are just closet cases themselves. No man or woman who is secure in their own sexuality gives a damn what others do in their private affairs but those in hiding are vociferous and abusive…just like you.
And POCs, trannys, illegal aliens, criminals, abortion & defund the police lovers, gun control freaks….
It really isn't.
Gay proclivity is often a product of institutional life: single sex boarding schools, military units, jails etc.
Farmers boys are far more likely to have sex with farm animals.
Most human societies make normal heterosexual sex incredibly hard to get : by restricting access of young men to females except in highly controlled situations.
I'm glad I didn't grow up on a farm, or in jail!
From what I recall, the negotiation of sex when I was younger was kind of like a job interview (albeit with more ear-drum exploding music and darkness). The trick was that you displayed supreme confidence for the employer, and got her to believe that every single thing she said was endlessly fascinating, and all her musical tastes were cool.
Of course, this was back in the 90s. Maybe it's all jail-and-farm sex or bust now.
I have no idea what it is like now. I was lucky to hit the age of 20 in 1973: a time when liberated young women literally threw themselves at me: I really had very little seduction to do. It was fun. Pretty much like playing tennis, a different partner every night if you felt so inclined.
"...liberated young women literally threw themselves at me."
Sounds painful.
Personally, I liked putting a little elbow-grease into getting laid, back in the day. It honed me for the battle against the final video game boss: my beloved wife, with all of her variously adorable and infuriating qualities.
Oh, wives. Yes.
I tend to marry a woman who can cook great food and make great babies, and screw a woman who likes to screw. I just go with the flow: if you are very lucky you might find one woman who hits all the sweet spots. I'm still looking , haha!
Re your last paragraph, what are the reasons human societies do that? Interesting turn of phrase there, too, Rob: "access of young 𝒎𝒆𝒏 to 𝒇𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒍𝒆𝒔..." Those 𝒇𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒍𝒆𝒔 are girls and women.
Yes, but females involves less typing.
Oh, LOL! That's hilarious! ❤️
Instead of women or females, I propose to call them B.i.t.c.h.e.s
You're not going to like the road this conversation is going to go down.
Is it a conversation you'd be proud of?
Only if you fight back really hard the whole way.
I'm just saying you definitely won't find it satisfying unless you just want a bar fight for its own sake. :)
Bring out the popcorn, by all means!
What about an honest discussion about prostitution? Is that a legitimate escape valve for testosterone fuelled men, or just a form of abuse of vulnerable females/girls/women ?
Ordinary people and petty desires make for stability and the desire to maintain that stability.
Love the ERB novels of Barsoom.
Always the convenient whipping boys, right John?
Pretty sure mon$ey pox includes a lot of whipping (& whipped) boys, Dennis. If this new “pox” is almost exclusively w/in the gay / fetish / orgy community, & it absolutely is, how is pointing that out some sort of scapegoating?
Excuse me. Monkeypox is racist, you bigot. The preferred nomenclature is pridepox.
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But John, I called it mon$ey pox!
Because truth is hate speech
Don't look at me, I'm not the one who goes in for sadomasochism.
In the US during the height of the lockdowns, I believe it was lord fauci who said that things like orgies were OK, as well as violent protests. It has NOTHING to do with a virus.
Also... gays, as well as muslims, minorities and the violent left, and protected classes in the US. They are allowed to live under a completely different set of rules and are exempt from laws.
So yes, we are a banana republic now.
To make it even more perverse they listed ways to engage in human sexual contact with one another with masks, gloves, distancing, keeping certain items of clothing on while engaging in coitus, Etc and all the 'sexy talk' detail you would expect, as if created by two artificial intelligence computer programs doing 'sexy talk' with each other before routers and modems actually become inserted. These people are insane.
Simply beyond parody.
Yep. There were public health PSAs going out explaining how to use glory holes safely in the COVID era. At least, I'm pretty sure that wasn't satire. Hard to tell these days.
" Hard to tell these days" I go to bed most nights suspecting that we are all players in some kind of satirical farce - and wake up in the morning knowing its real.
I keep thinking I must have died and this is some kind of bizarre purgatory.
It is a doctrine of some streams of the gnostic faith that all of physical reality is actually just the thought of one insane mind called the demiurge, who wondered to itself, "What would a reality separated from God look like?" Then it explored the results of this question from many different viewpoints. Each of us is one of those interactive viewpoints, apparently separate from each other due to our current perspective. When the demiurge is satisfied it has "seen it all" and has the answer to its original question, the construct known as "reality" will no longer be needed and simply disappear.
Oh, they were serious alright (f*cking insane, yes, but serious). https://globalnews.ca/news/7312641/wear-mask-no-kissing-sex-coronavirus-tam/
I remember reading an article about safety measures and one of the experts stated that glory holes were a safer form of sex for preventing Covid transmission because of the barrier to respiration and respiratory droplets. I assume one would still have to engage in diligent hand, penis and mouth washing (or vagina washing for women who engage in such behavior--we need to be inclusive and nondiscriminatory). Of course, it might not be as safe for monkeypox. Just be sure to ask your local pharmacy chain for their smallpox vaccine, I'm sure it's one of the 15 or so they offer.
Actually Fauci, in an interview, when asked about using dating services and hooking up with someone that way during the pandemic, while he was promoting lockdowns, replied that it depended how much risk you were willing to take.
Have you purposely omitted those who may use their feet to elicit and receive sexual excitement? Let’s forget it this time: presuming that this was an innocent mistake and not some vicious and ruthless de-humanising of a life affirming and brave group.
I have informed the owner of this Stacky thing.
In olden days a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking, but heaven knows, anything goes. Of course with a foot fetish one has to be careful of athlete's foot turning into jock itch, or vice versa, although there are easy treatments for that. And let's not forget eargasms.
I am very sorry I started this.
Yes, I think we need to quarantine these remark.
I was nodding reading your comment, until I saw this:
"So yes, we are a banana republic now. "
Nope... we are not a republic anymore....
Sigh. You're right.
If you watch the PBS series I, Claudius, he wants the republic to come back. In the series, although people say they want the republic to return, they don't do anything to make that happen. Perhaps we're at that point; we want things, but are not generally motivated to make them happen.
(citation needed)
Frankly, this is a rather silly rant.
Orgies are OK, if that is your cup of tea.
Violent protests just don't work out well.
Minorities live under exactly the same laws as everyone else, and in the wide sweep of history, have tended to be more likely than others to end up being lynched by the mob. They merit our sympathy and support:
And as for bananas, and republics, I am lucky enough to reside in a Constitutional Monarchy, so that is your problem, not mine.
Is "stigma and discrimination" ~really~ as dangerous as ANY virus? Plague? Ebola? Anthrax? Unless of course you want to "stigmatize and discriminate" against the unvaccinated.....
....nothing they say makes any sense.....
Well, for a while before modern anti-AIDS drugs, their view of AIDS changed.
Amazing how the actual possibility of death has a way of focusing the mind on reality.
Sadly, no one wants to offend any member of the LGBTQ "community" these days by suggesting anything is wrong with their various forms of behavior. Drag Queen story hour is not OK for little children and it needs to be said out loud. Gay men randomly sodomizing one another is probably not healthy after what we learned from the AID's period. Maybe it's time for "Normal" to make a come back in our culture or what is acceptable and what is not ... ? Maybe.
I have a whole theory about why deviants-- and that's what they are-- demand complete and utter acceptance, and even celebration of their deviancy.
They know what they are doing is against nature. They also know it's against God's commands. So to ease their mind, the require EVERYONE to tell them 24/7 that what they are doing is right and good.and perfect Because they know their actions are wrong.
It's fair to say that when you witness a taboo emerge separately in different cultures separated by oceans, there's a reason for it. Generally speaking, densely populated human societies were historically not very fond of sodomy.
We like to imagine we're much more enlightened than preceding generations, but we happen to have the benefit of antibiotics and antiviral drugs that can turn death sentences into minor inconveniences. It's easy to be tolerant with 0.5% infant mortality rates and a life expectancy of 90 years. As the pathogens evolve antibiotic resistance and new ones jump the species barrier and spread around the world within days, I think public attitudes will eventually shift again.
Well stated.
"Gay men randomly sodomizing one another is probably not healthy" -- YA THINK? Of course it's not healthy. Desperation over this among "allies" is the reason you get things like Jordan Peterson, of all people, talking to Dave Rubin about how he and his "husband" can artificially create a healthy family life for the children they artificially created. Marriage and fatherhood (in some form, real or more abstract) are key to society and to healthy life for nearly all men. If stigma is all that holds back gay men and lesbians, then "gay marriage" gives people attracted to the same sex -- not all of whom are promiscuous or exhibitionists -- the chance to show it. But it seems that the vast majority don't want to be "just like married couples" and I think that many who have gay and lesbian family members and who desperately want this for them are finding out that erasing stigma is bringing out a lot more of myriad deviant behaviors than it counters.
Women have been told that careers and promiscuity are better than marriage and motherhood.
Men have been diminished in society and are told they are replaceable, which have turned many-- understandably-- against young women.
As for the families of gay/lesbians, I agree. The families want it normalized so they are not seen as failures, aka parents of children who are deviants.
Yep. When anything goes, nothing matters. There is no drawing a line on this stuff. Once we gave in and accepted everything as being Okay and normal, there was never going to be another line. That's why you don't negotiate certain things. This is one of them.
excellent points.
We have witnessed the downfall of fatherhood, and I never thought it could go this low.
My younger sister just finally came out of the closet (the rest of us already knew) last month @ the age of 61 . Certainly isn’t going to make me an advocate for gay rights.
No more 'maybe'.
A few months ago these experts were touting a 10-30% case fatality rate for monkeypox.
The UK has nearly 2k cases and so far not even a single death. If they want to get those CFR stats bumped up Covid style, they're going to have to pull a pretty severe about-turn on social distancing in nursing homes
That would be sickly funny --monkey pox in nursing homes.
Seeing as there are "Homosexuals only" nursing/retirement homes, it's a when, not an if.
Gosh--I had no idea! Yikes!
It gets better: the staff is also "Homosexuals only" which creates no end of problems. Gays are even more finicky and spoiled than moslems.
You know, that sounds like employment discrimination. Or like 'no Jews allowed' in this country club. Wonder that no heterosexual healthworker has filed a lawsuit. But then, I guess some people are equaller than others.
Oh my gracious. I think that ignorance is indeed bliss.
The way to ascend our social hierarchy is to correctly anticipate what the group consensus is going to be and to steer clear of societal taboos. The people who are unusually good at that thus end up in positions of power and then they use those positions of power to tilt the playing field more in favor of their own personality traits.
That's largely what wokeism amounts to. A kind of endless game of social nuances, linguistic absurdities and escalating taboos that autists and working class men can't stomach. It's designed to be unpalatable for the kind of people they wish to keep out of power and the hypocrisy you run into everywhere is more of a feature, than a bug.
The words used to describe minorities change almost as rapidly as the dress code of Gilded age socialites and the penalty for getting it wrong (ie saying "colored people" instead of "people of color") is so high precisely because competition for status has become so intense.
Of course plenty of people will miscalculate and remove themselves from competition for the upper echelons by wrongly anticipating group consensus. As an example, New York politicians would dine in Chinese restaurants in February 2020 to "combat anti-Asian racism" and columnists would write about how the "Chinese human rights violations" are unthinkable in the West, or how we should worry about the flu instead of the new coronavirus.
The public health bureaucrats are not too retarded to understand this is mainly spreading through gay orgies and they're not trying to bring back the good ol' days of 25% infant mortality rates either. Rather, the ranks are filled with people whose primary objective is to promote their own position within the structure and the way to do that is generally to play it safe.
Even if group consensus eventually does undergo the kind of shock shift we saw in march 2020 and settles on "People of Buttsex should stop sodomizing each other until this is over", anticipating that consensus and amplifying it yourself will serve your career no benefit, as it's so painfully obvious. They thus generally prefer to play it safe and go for "homophobia bad, monkeypox is a racist word, too many pictures of black people in the media", because that's the sort of message that has a good track record when it comes to advancing careers and little chance of coming back to haunt you.
Nice handle...combining Blake and Tolkien. I've been Palamambron for 20 years on email, poker, chess, anything on the internet, just because nobody else was doing it.
I, for one, am not sick of these monkeypox posts. They are hilarious! Any fair-minded observer (a distinct minority in the Woke West) should be outraged at the hypocrisy.
And what's with this "men who have sex with other men" stuff? I would think the Venn Diagram of "gay men" and "men who have sex with other men" is damned near a complete overlap. (The sliver that is not is "lonely, drunken sailors out to sea...")
I live for Eugyppius' monkeypox posts
"Men who have sex with men" (or "MSM") is a real term used in sociology and other fields, because some men will have sex with other men while not thinking of themselves as gay or "bisexual." Supposedly, a pretty hefty percentage of men who go to, say, a park bathroom to be serviced by other men then go home to their wives and kids -- or at least that was said a few decades ago when I read it. Maybe they were lying, or maybe (like Kinsey) the people who did the studies found a bunch of perverts and said they were typical. But that's where the term comes from.
I believe the 'men who have sex with other men' terminology was formulated because not all of these men 'identify' as gay (that word 'identify' again! Always causing trouble).
Nevertheless, as any self-respecting gay man of a certain age would no doubt tell them: 'BUT YOU ARE, Blanche, YOU ARE!'
My favorite is when men who have sex with men who call themselves transwomen pretend they’re straight
Male homosexuality with lipstick
"Gay" is a political term now. When Peter Thiel supported Trump, some publication(s) claimed that he might have sex with other men, but he was definitely not gay.
https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2016/10/14/peter-thiel-shows-us-theres-difference-between-gay-sex-and-gay
Sounds like Roy Cohn's rant from 'Angels in America':
"Roy Cohn: Your problem, Henry, is that you are hung up on words, on labels: "gay", "homosexual", "lesbian." You think they tell you who a person sleeps with, but they don't tell you that. Like all labels, they refer to one thing and one thing only: Where does a person so identified fit in the food chain? In the pecking order. Not ideology or sexual taste, but something much simpler: clout. Who owes me favors. Not who I fuck or who fucks me, but who will pick up the phone when I call. To someone who doesn't understand this, homosexual is what I am because I sleep with men, but this is wrong. Homosexuals are not men who sleep with other men. Homosexuals are men who, in 15 years of trying, can't get a pissant anti-discrimination bill through City Council. They are men who know nobody, and who nobody knows. Now, Henry, does that sound like me?
Henry: No.
Roy Cohn: No. I have clout — lots! I pick up that phone, dial 15 numbers, and guess who's on the other end of the line? In under five minutes, Henry.
Henry: The President.
Roy Cohn: Better — his wife.
Henry: I'm impressed.
Roy Cohn: I don't want you to be impressed, Henry — I want you to understand. This is not sophistry, and this is not hypocrisy. This is reality. I have sex with men, but unlike nearly every other man of which this is true, I bring the guy I'm screwing to Washington, and President Reagan smiles at us and shakes his hand, because what I am is defined entirely by who I am. Roy Cohn is not a homosexual. Roy Cohn is a heterosexual man who fucks around with guys."
Black belt in semantics with a third dan in mental gymnastics.
Charming.
Stunning.
> And what's with this "men who have sex with other men" stuff?
A consequence of their attempt to pretend homosexuality is an inherent property and not a behavior.
“This is like during the pandemic, when the religious were gently asked to “reconsider considering” attending worship services, and nobody was arrested or fined and no churches were closed or anything crazy like that“
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Mustn’t ask the homosexuals to sacrifice anything, saving Grandma is the children’s job.
Ouch.
Lots of words uttered by our dear friend, tedros - but not a peep suggesting a temporary refrain from sexual activity among the gay population?
Money-pox.
"...while protecting human rights by fighting stigma and discrimination." I'm sick of being hearing and reading this. We all SHOULD discriminate between normal and egregious behavior. Men who frequent bathhouses for anonymous sodomy (and other things) with multiple other men are behaving in a way that every sane adult -- male, female, married, single, whatever -- should condemn. We SHOULD have a stigma against this. The idea that anything any adult wants to do is fine as long as the other consents is not only false, it's obviously false. Not everything one person can get another person to consent to is okay. It''s not "discrimination" to say so.