If I can’t catch a few days’ break, your last two book reviews will never appear. On 26 September, massive explosions destroyed both lines of Nord Stream 1 and one line Nord Stream 2, cutting crucial potential natural gas supplies from Russia to Germany. Nord Stream 1 had been idle since August; Nord Stream 2 was completed in late 2021 but never commissioned because of the tensions over Ukraine. The attack happened just as German politicians began to return from holiday and realise that the anti-Russia sanctions regime portends the worst energy crisis for central Europe since World War II.
Of course, the US did it, whether we did it alone or used a NATO proxy, we did it. Why? To relieve pressure on European leaders to drag the Ukraine and the US to the table with Russia to save their people from starving and freezing. It's as simple as that. Now there is no pipeline to argue over and the war can continue and all the human suffering can be pushed off on Putin.
Dear God in heaven, why are the German people so supine? It seems like a case of Stockholm syndrome, writ large. After 80 years of occupation by the US, the people have been completely cowed into stolid, unquestioning obedience. It beggars belief.
I find the way that people are mandated by some unseen force to use the word "Conspiracy" when discussing anything that isn't officially mandated to be super tiresome. Why participate in & perpetuate this bizarre idea?
Some state actor decided to take out the pipeline. Other states are choosing not to share their information. This is now a normal state of affairs in western Democracies, where ostensibly people govern by voting on things and expressing their will. How they are supposed to express their will about state actors and actions that they have no information about, is unclear. How Democracies are really supposed to work when even the most basic diplomacy between states, as in, "We know who blew this up", is kept secret because it would be inconvenient and useless to inform the public? So it's basically "We know who blew this up but it serves no purpose to tell you and it would complicate things." Which is basically the gist of the Covid policy too.
I guess the tacit acceptance of people that they will be kept in the dark is very confusing to me, the tacit acceptance of the use of the word Conspiracy for "The general public in a democracy is desperately trying to express their will, but we deny them the critical facts to make an informed decision, so we will call their blinded discussions Conspiracy" a very strange choice as well.
It was the Loch Ness Monster. Definitely. I have a friend who lives in Inverness who told me that Nessie was seen slipping out into the North Sea late one night, and returning three days later, grinning from ear to ear.
There are really only two possible scenarios: Russia sabotaged the pipelines or Ukraine/NATO/EU sabotaged the pipelines.
How much forensic evidence can be gathered from the ocean floor after such an attack is problematic, but it is highly unlikely any o f it amounts to "smoking gun" evidence that points the finger of guilt in any one direction.
In terms of strategic benefits, it's far more likely NATO is behind the sabotage than Russia. The explosions came too late to be of benefit to Putin as a false flag attack on Russian sovereignty as a pretext for mobilization (although the explosions not going off at the right time would explain the bizarre 12-hour delay in Putin's mobilization speech), and the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines mean that Russian gas flows through the Yamal and Central Corridor pipelines through Poland and Ukraine to Europe or not at all. The destruction of Nord Stream removes any benefit to Germany of breaking ranks with NATO, and thus keeps the alliance united against Putin. That's a plus for NATO.
One thing the Nord Stream sabotage makes clear is that very little has changed in European politics since the 19th century. The locii of geopolitical power are still Moscow, Berlin, Paris, and London, and all of them are still jockeying for influence and looking for ways to circumscribe each others' power and influence; when push comes to shove, the alliance will either be Berlin, London, and Moscow against Paris (Napoleonic Wars); London, Paris, and Moscow against Berlin (WW1 and WW2), or London, Paris, and Berlin against Moscow (Cold War and beyond). Regardless of how the alliances are formed, the game is the same: control over the European continent.
It's clear who did it, who suffered (and will) the consequences and we should just be waiting for Russian's retaliation, that will come, but I never though Russians rush things.
I think Greta Thunberg did it.
At least if Russia cut the transatlantic internet cables in retaliation, the flow of gender theory and critical race theory to Europe will be cut off
Of course, the US did it, whether we did it alone or used a NATO proxy, we did it. Why? To relieve pressure on European leaders to drag the Ukraine and the US to the table with Russia to save their people from starving and freezing. It's as simple as that. Now there is no pipeline to argue over and the war can continue and all the human suffering can be pushed off on Putin.
Dear God in heaven, why are the German people so supine? It seems like a case of Stockholm syndrome, writ large. After 80 years of occupation by the US, the people have been completely cowed into stolid, unquestioning obedience. It beggars belief.
I find the way that people are mandated by some unseen force to use the word "Conspiracy" when discussing anything that isn't officially mandated to be super tiresome. Why participate in & perpetuate this bizarre idea?
Some state actor decided to take out the pipeline. Other states are choosing not to share their information. This is now a normal state of affairs in western Democracies, where ostensibly people govern by voting on things and expressing their will. How they are supposed to express their will about state actors and actions that they have no information about, is unclear. How Democracies are really supposed to work when even the most basic diplomacy between states, as in, "We know who blew this up", is kept secret because it would be inconvenient and useless to inform the public? So it's basically "We know who blew this up but it serves no purpose to tell you and it would complicate things." Which is basically the gist of the Covid policy too.
I guess the tacit acceptance of people that they will be kept in the dark is very confusing to me, the tacit acceptance of the use of the word Conspiracy for "The general public in a democracy is desperately trying to express their will, but we deny them the critical facts to make an informed decision, so we will call their blinded discussions Conspiracy" a very strange choice as well.
I think we can rule out Russia at this point.
It was the Loch Ness Monster. Definitely. I have a friend who lives in Inverness who told me that Nessie was seen slipping out into the North Sea late one night, and returning three days later, grinning from ear to ear.
It was the Swedes. They have imported many of the world's top explosives experts over the past decade ;)
People who claim Russia did continue to show their full ass
Obviously, Sweden is on Russia's payroll and they are covering up for Putin 😏!
Clear picture being that US bombed it?
"with your own theories, or discuss anything else you wish." Are you sure? You won't delete comments and ban anyone for 100 years?
There are really only two possible scenarios: Russia sabotaged the pipelines or Ukraine/NATO/EU sabotaged the pipelines.
How much forensic evidence can be gathered from the ocean floor after such an attack is problematic, but it is highly unlikely any o f it amounts to "smoking gun" evidence that points the finger of guilt in any one direction.
In terms of strategic benefits, it's far more likely NATO is behind the sabotage than Russia. The explosions came too late to be of benefit to Putin as a false flag attack on Russian sovereignty as a pretext for mobilization (although the explosions not going off at the right time would explain the bizarre 12-hour delay in Putin's mobilization speech), and the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines mean that Russian gas flows through the Yamal and Central Corridor pipelines through Poland and Ukraine to Europe or not at all. The destruction of Nord Stream removes any benefit to Germany of breaking ranks with NATO, and thus keeps the alliance united against Putin. That's a plus for NATO.
One thing the Nord Stream sabotage makes clear is that very little has changed in European politics since the 19th century. The locii of geopolitical power are still Moscow, Berlin, Paris, and London, and all of them are still jockeying for influence and looking for ways to circumscribe each others' power and influence; when push comes to shove, the alliance will either be Berlin, London, and Moscow against Paris (Napoleonic Wars); London, Paris, and Moscow against Berlin (WW1 and WW2), or London, Paris, and Berlin against Moscow (Cold War and beyond). Regardless of how the alliances are formed, the game is the same: control over the European continent.
Swedes either got a visit from some Americans in plain suits or were smart enough to not need the formality.
What conspiracy? Honest question.
It's clear who did it, who suffered (and will) the consequences and we should just be waiting for Russian's retaliation, that will come, but I never though Russians rush things.
Why would Sweden classify their investigation?