"There is no preventing these outcomes. The only thing that could matter – again, assuming you want to reduce the burden on hospitals – is getting vaccines to the high-risk unvaccinated."
Those people probably don't even exist: everyone I know who is "vulnerable" has been vaxxed. We need to abandon this vaxx obsession and promote early treatment and, where required, "focused protection".
It's almost like we had all the things we needed from the top epidemiologists and front line doctors in the world 18 months ago. But apparently, stating this makes me a far-right, antivaxx conspiracy theorist.
Obviously, our governments don't care how many die. It's not about saving lives - or public hospitals. Otherwise, we would have seen a rational policy of targeted vaccination for the elderly and other high risk groups. Doctors would have been allowed - even encouraged - to prescribe early treatments like ivermectin and other safe and effective repurposed medicines. Vitamins D and C, zinc and quercetin would be distributed to everyone as prophylaxis for free. People would be encouraged to spend more time outdoors and exercise.... Mass vaccination is a means to and end, i.e., social credit systems and digital IDs. Austria is trailing behind other EU countries and must be compelled to reach at least 80% vaccinated before winter ends so EU vaccine passports can be more efficiently rolled out. And then the real segregation of the disobedient unvaccinated minority can begin. They're rushing to do this now since if/when the majority of Europeans have natural immunity from wild virus, the vaccination imperative thru compulsory jabs will be harder to pull off.... The vaccines don't work but they function.
In NZ every death from Covid is front page news. The other week a guy who had a positive PCR test got shot, went to hospital, died of his wounds and was recorded in the official Covid death tally, because that's apparently what the WHO says you should do with anyone who dies within 28 days or something from a positive PCR. Then there was the 90 year old. "Another Covid death", blared the headline, but if you read to paragraph 3 you'd see that person had so many comorbidities they couldn't even ventilate her. Something is rotten in the state of (everywhere).
Honestly. I don’t think they care at all if the vaccines even help. It’s pretty clear now that they don’t help anyone and it appears they harm more than help. Seems like this is what the governments want. This whole virus has always been about control. They will never stop pushing them because as they do more people will get sick. Then they can keep doing the lockdowns. The camps. Etc. the vaccine passports. It will never end til they get everything they want. Unless we all rise up and put an end to this insanity. But half the world believes in these evil leaders and want them to take care of them. Not sure how we stop this!!! Glad I’ve lived a pretty good life so far. Glad I have deep faith. I put my trust in God and not men.
"The only thing that could matter – again, assuming you want to reduce the burden on hospitals – is getting vaccines to the high-risk unvaccinated." -- actually, the thing that would really make a difference is early treatment. We could dramatically reduce hospitalization and deaths, even in high-risk groups.
The solution is rapid, aggressive early treatment. But very few in the West want to talk about this. The pandemic could be OVER in short order, but no....
The fact that we "don't have enough data" even though every medical system has electronic health records says "we don't want to have enough data." The officials imposing all the useless restrictions have every incentive for keeping the "emergency" going. Until those incentives change, plan on a permanent, manufactured "emergency."
It is just like the fake news. The MSM pushes lie after lie to push their agenda. When we find out that they lied, Rittenouse most recently, they just move on to the next lie without ever correcting the record. This virus is the same. Fauci did his best to come clean this weekend by saying he "hopes" that the 3rd shot of the exact same cocktail will have different results. Perhaps he and others should look up the definition of insanity. Masks, 6 feet, vaccinations, lockdowns... all of it is just idiotic ideas from idiotic and evil people.
I think the UK "public health experts" must already know that the jabs are not working very well for the elderly.
In the week 39 report, 84.1% of the over 80s who died within 28 days of a +PCR were fully vaxxed (1288/1531).
In the week 46 report, 86.8% of the over 80s who died within 20 days of a +PCR were fully vaxxed.
And keep in mind that the week 46 likely includes a benefit from the booster campaign that the NHS started in late September/early October.
As far as a cost-benefit for the elderly, we have zero visibility...at least in the United States...about deaths following injections because the data is captured in the CMS.gov system. I've heard there were tens of thousands of deaths within 72 hours among the elderly.
I wrote this comment on one of the bad cat's articles, but it applies here...
The psy-op has been so effective that even when people understand the jabs don't stop infection or transmission...and that the unvaxxed are not to blame for that...they still want to force the unvaxxed to get jabbed or be excluded. It's truly amazing.
"...the unshakeable belief that by reducing spread overall, you can also save the elderly. Over a year’s worth of experience has shown that this is the wrong strategy, and yet vaccination policy continues to operate on the same premise..." best summary yet of the insanity that has gripped the world over the past 20 months. "Over two millennia worth of experience..." is likely more accurate.
There is no way of ever preventing any airborne virus from spreading around the globe and eventually everyone will have been exposed to it - and it's so deadly that the survival rate is, err, 99.8% aprox, depending on age, morbidities etc.
Slightly off topic maybe , but I wish everyone would cease using the doublespeak phrase -"breakthrough infections" . The correct terminology used to be, and still should be "vaccine failures"- although even this phrase wrongly elevates the mrna jabs to the status of a traditional vaccine.
"Failure" though is a word not allowed in our brave new world.
There is an aphorism, French I believe, that says if a person comes to a point of view by means other than reason, then reason will not make him change his point of view. It seems impossible that the hordes of bureaucrats and tyrants who respond to vaccine failure with more vaccines and lockdowns will be persuaded by facts and logic. The next step is to remove them from power, constitutionally. I don't yet want to contemplate further steps, should that fail.
Data and evidence in abundance to confirm that Covid is a significant threat to a minority of the world population and that the key issue of vulnerability is the health of the individual. Suppression of viral transmission appears only to delay rather than prevent illness and death although targeted protection for those at risk has NOT been implemented in most areas. For non Covid illness the health care systems are failing and will be under immense pressure in the years ahead. I conclude that people have an irrational concern over death, being certain, and little courage for life, being a one off opportunity. I conclude that people are content to abuse individual health with gross consumption of calories, poor nutrition, drinking, drug and smoking habits, little exercise and rely on modern medical skills to relieve pain and extend breathing for years after living ended. The virus has simply exposed to reality the fundamental weakness of people and that ignoring evidence is preferable to understanding a truth. Shame.
"There is no preventing these outcomes. The only thing that could matter – again, assuming you want to reduce the burden on hospitals – is getting vaccines to the high-risk unvaccinated."
Those people probably don't even exist: everyone I know who is "vulnerable" has been vaxxed. We need to abandon this vaxx obsession and promote early treatment and, where required, "focused protection".
It's almost like we had all the things we needed from the top epidemiologists and front line doctors in the world 18 months ago. But apparently, stating this makes me a far-right, antivaxx conspiracy theorist.
Obviously, our governments don't care how many die. It's not about saving lives - or public hospitals. Otherwise, we would have seen a rational policy of targeted vaccination for the elderly and other high risk groups. Doctors would have been allowed - even encouraged - to prescribe early treatments like ivermectin and other safe and effective repurposed medicines. Vitamins D and C, zinc and quercetin would be distributed to everyone as prophylaxis for free. People would be encouraged to spend more time outdoors and exercise.... Mass vaccination is a means to and end, i.e., social credit systems and digital IDs. Austria is trailing behind other EU countries and must be compelled to reach at least 80% vaccinated before winter ends so EU vaccine passports can be more efficiently rolled out. And then the real segregation of the disobedient unvaccinated minority can begin. They're rushing to do this now since if/when the majority of Europeans have natural immunity from wild virus, the vaccination imperative thru compulsory jabs will be harder to pull off.... The vaccines don't work but they function.
In NZ every death from Covid is front page news. The other week a guy who had a positive PCR test got shot, went to hospital, died of his wounds and was recorded in the official Covid death tally, because that's apparently what the WHO says you should do with anyone who dies within 28 days or something from a positive PCR. Then there was the 90 year old. "Another Covid death", blared the headline, but if you read to paragraph 3 you'd see that person had so many comorbidities they couldn't even ventilate her. Something is rotten in the state of (everywhere).
Honestly. I don’t think they care at all if the vaccines even help. It’s pretty clear now that they don’t help anyone and it appears they harm more than help. Seems like this is what the governments want. This whole virus has always been about control. They will never stop pushing them because as they do more people will get sick. Then they can keep doing the lockdowns. The camps. Etc. the vaccine passports. It will never end til they get everything they want. Unless we all rise up and put an end to this insanity. But half the world believes in these evil leaders and want them to take care of them. Not sure how we stop this!!! Glad I’ve lived a pretty good life so far. Glad I have deep faith. I put my trust in God and not men.
"The only thing that could matter – again, assuming you want to reduce the burden on hospitals – is getting vaccines to the high-risk unvaccinated." -- actually, the thing that would really make a difference is early treatment. We could dramatically reduce hospitalization and deaths, even in high-risk groups.
The solution is rapid, aggressive early treatment. But very few in the West want to talk about this. The pandemic could be OVER in short order, but no....
The bureaucrats should mandate healthy diets, daily workouts and maximum BMI limits for the population.
-or would that be a violation of personal rights of choice?
The fact that we "don't have enough data" even though every medical system has electronic health records says "we don't want to have enough data." The officials imposing all the useless restrictions have every incentive for keeping the "emergency" going. Until those incentives change, plan on a permanent, manufactured "emergency."
Frieden is no one to quote. Remember him on Ebola. He is another known bureaucrat and liar.
It is just like the fake news. The MSM pushes lie after lie to push their agenda. When we find out that they lied, Rittenouse most recently, they just move on to the next lie without ever correcting the record. This virus is the same. Fauci did his best to come clean this weekend by saying he "hopes" that the 3rd shot of the exact same cocktail will have different results. Perhaps he and others should look up the definition of insanity. Masks, 6 feet, vaccinations, lockdowns... all of it is just idiotic ideas from idiotic and evil people.
I think the UK "public health experts" must already know that the jabs are not working very well for the elderly.
In the week 39 report, 84.1% of the over 80s who died within 28 days of a +PCR were fully vaxxed (1288/1531).
In the week 46 report, 86.8% of the over 80s who died within 20 days of a +PCR were fully vaxxed.
And keep in mind that the week 46 likely includes a benefit from the booster campaign that the NHS started in late September/early October.
As far as a cost-benefit for the elderly, we have zero visibility...at least in the United States...about deaths following injections because the data is captured in the CMS.gov system. I've heard there were tens of thousands of deaths within 72 hours among the elderly.
I wrote this comment on one of the bad cat's articles, but it applies here...
The psy-op has been so effective that even when people understand the jabs don't stop infection or transmission...and that the unvaxxed are not to blame for that...they still want to force the unvaxxed to get jabbed or be excluded. It's truly amazing.
How do we break the spell?
"...the unshakeable belief that by reducing spread overall, you can also save the elderly. Over a year’s worth of experience has shown that this is the wrong strategy, and yet vaccination policy continues to operate on the same premise..." best summary yet of the insanity that has gripped the world over the past 20 months. "Over two millennia worth of experience..." is likely more accurate.
Absolutely agree.
There is no way of ever preventing any airborne virus from spreading around the globe and eventually everyone will have been exposed to it - and it's so deadly that the survival rate is, err, 99.8% aprox, depending on age, morbidities etc.
Slightly off topic maybe , but I wish everyone would cease using the doublespeak phrase -"breakthrough infections" . The correct terminology used to be, and still should be "vaccine failures"- although even this phrase wrongly elevates the mrna jabs to the status of a traditional vaccine.
"Failure" though is a word not allowed in our brave new world.
There is an aphorism, French I believe, that says if a person comes to a point of view by means other than reason, then reason will not make him change his point of view. It seems impossible that the hordes of bureaucrats and tyrants who respond to vaccine failure with more vaccines and lockdowns will be persuaded by facts and logic. The next step is to remove them from power, constitutionally. I don't yet want to contemplate further steps, should that fail.
The world will be so much better when they "approve" the "vaccine" for newborns... ;-) Heaven help us.
Data and evidence in abundance to confirm that Covid is a significant threat to a minority of the world population and that the key issue of vulnerability is the health of the individual. Suppression of viral transmission appears only to delay rather than prevent illness and death although targeted protection for those at risk has NOT been implemented in most areas. For non Covid illness the health care systems are failing and will be under immense pressure in the years ahead. I conclude that people have an irrational concern over death, being certain, and little courage for life, being a one off opportunity. I conclude that people are content to abuse individual health with gross consumption of calories, poor nutrition, drinking, drug and smoking habits, little exercise and rely on modern medical skills to relieve pain and extend breathing for years after living ended. The virus has simply exposed to reality the fundamental weakness of people and that ignoring evidence is preferable to understanding a truth. Shame.