The fact that the George Floyd/BLM riots and looting were ok and encouraged from a public health perspective during a “pandemic” but anything Trump did was a superspreader event. In general, nothing made sense.
this to me was the pivotal event. local guidelines were saying shelter-in-place for everyone safety, except for protesting which was important and was just fine. So i couldn't see my family outside 6 feet apart (at the time), yet BLM protesters could bash in windows and hurt businesses, murder federal employees in Oakland while trying to burn down police stations in Portland with staff INSIDE, tear down American flags and statues, and draw swastikas on my local synagogue- all during a pandemic. okay then
If the protesters were black, then turnabout is fair play after 400+years of oppression and slavery exploitation. If the protesters were white ( which we saw lots of video of that) they were thugs, white supremacists, insiders trying to further incite a riot to make arrests and offer sensationalism for the MSM to gain white sympathy and continue on as normal.
This. I'm from a smaller western state and I remember people gathering at the capitol to protest the lockdowns. The local news was apoplectic about protesting during a pandemic. It was literally less than a week later when George Floyd died and suddenly protesting was encouraged. One local paper even wrote an article contending that the BLM protests didn't actually spread the virus. Complete clown show, and I haven't taken anything about this pandemic seriously ever since.
I heard from some hospital staff in S. Calif. that they were told NOT to ask for details or report ANY virus related incidents that had any roots going back to BLM riots. Even if it was volunteered!
Yep, that was an extra red pill for me too. When the "public health experts" in the US made up that handwaved pseudo-scientific argument about how "white supremacy is a bigger threat to public health than covid, so the BLM riots are a special case" it was pretty obvious that the pandemicists and woke ideologists were congenitally linked. There is one common oligarchical NGO party line out there, and it reminds me a lot of Lysenkoism under Stalin. As a lifelong environmentalist I have even begun to wonder how much of climate science has been overcooked, given that the same Davos-set liars are pushing that.
I always considered the global warming "consensus" to be contrived and the comparison with Lysenkoism has occurred to me too. An inevitable outcome of the politicization of science. I don't mean party politics but when science is harnessed to push a predetermined policy agenda.
I recognized the fake Covid computer models right away, because the fake Climate Change models use the same type of false underlying assumptions to make them “work”. You can never trust a poll either, until you understand the methodology behind it. There are hundreds of ways to skew data. Also, trace the funding of such modeling. That tells a tale too. For years, people believed that smoking was safe because Big Tobacco’s scientists said so.
I think we must distinguish between genuine environmentalism (protecting habitats, valuing nature, reducing the amount of pollution, chemicals and toxins in our atmosphere and environment -- including the food we eat) and the "climate change" agenda. The latter is ideological and is being used as a Trojan horse for UN 2030 goals which will benefit technocrats and corporations.
Absolutely agree. For example, in reading about insect die-offs, I started thinking about how when I would go outside my house when I first moved here (in the woods in a far exurb of NYC) 15 years ago, the bugs would drive me insane, now not so much at all. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I think somethings going on there. Likewise with overfishing from what I've read.
Same. There are quite a few parallels with covid. For instance, much of the climate science is based on modeling and we know how exaggerated that can be. Also, my understanding is that the IPCC, which is affiliated with the UN, has a directive to find an anthropomorphic basis for climate change. Also, the scientists who speak out against the dominant narrative are smeared as anti-science and are censored, blacklisted etc much like with covid. The hypocrisy is rife as well with a do as I say not as I do ie. some who lecture everyone about their carbon footprints are flying around in private jets. Also you would expect these same people to be environmentally conscious but many didn't say a word about Fukushima, one of the greatest environmental disasters in recent memory and they also don't seem to give a fig about increased plastic waste in the ocean from test kits, masks etc.
For me the link is not only the technocratic-dictatorial dogma about The Science, it's the Malthusian spirit lurking in the background of both things. Now I'm not sold on "Bill Gates wants to depopulate the planet with poisonous vaccines". But these kind of elites ARE obsessed with limits to growth, and they have been since at least the mid 1970s (Club of Rome era.) I used to think this was all very benign and just about handing out condoms to Africans and creating social safety nets in the Third World so that people in shanty towns wouldn't have huge families to look after them in their old age and all that kind of stuff. But now I'm not so sure. I KNOW the very same people who make up the green movement have had the wool pulled over their eyes on this covid stuff.
As for nuclear power, there's very unlikely to be any answer to the conventional "climate crisis", but if there is one it would involve next generation reactors - another largely ignored truth.
White supremacy has always been the number one threat around the globe. Just ask the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere how things might have turned out had they never arrived there with their gifts of smallpox blankets.
Ask the Vietnamese how things might have turned out if there never was a need to “stop communism from expanding “ in SE Asia?
And the List goes on and on. Weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq. White woman “looked at” the wrong way by a minority resident of Greenwood Tulsa, OK in 1921.
So what’s so different now? Covid disproportionately again brings despair and death to minorities once again during this invented pandemic. And who actually benefited? White supremacists win again as shareholders and beneficiaries of massive inflation. Justice and fairness for all is what’s preached in church, not lived daily by white people. Never was and never will. How am I certain? I’m white.
Dude. North America and Europe have the worst per capita Covid death rates in the world, e.g. 2500 per million dead in the US vs 14 per million dead in Nigeria. India, Africa, and China are doing fine in terms of mortality rates. Whites are dropping like flies.
You're not making a white supremacist argument since most whites don't benefit and some are just as harmed as minorities because, despite what the news tells you, there are poor white people and the number in this group have been growing for years. Who does? The wealthy, time and time again. Note that includes some who are not white though admittedly the wealthy whites take a greater share.
I used to listen to NPR a fair amount in my car about 10-15 years ago. At one point around 2010, it was obvious that about every 3rd or 4th story on some morning drives was about global warming (as I believe it was still referred to at that point). I had really discovered US government propaganda in earnest in the run up to the Iraq war, so it became pretty obvious that GW was a psyop. It was just too forced, too in your face.
Thanks, I will check that out. I do recall the Moore controversy a bit, and Al Gore, well come on!
Last comment for the evening, I need to cut back on current events and get some hobbies - I am 52 and was quite geopolitically aware in the early 80's. I have told a couple of youngsters (even people 5 years younger than me can't really grasp what that period was like) that when I was 13 I didn't completely expect to live to 18 (and I wasn't alone), and that their GW fears strike me as quaint.
In hindsight, this wasn't a completely ridiculous fear - go look up Operation Able Archer and Stanislav Petrov if you don't know about it. I tell the young kids that while they are worried about +1.5 degrees C over 50 years, I was worried about +10k degrees C in 50 microseconds. I get a look out of that.
Give me 20 minutes I can come up with 10 future scenarios much worse that GW and not especially unlikely. So, yes, GW is obviously something other than what it is supposed to be.
I'm a few years older. Grew up about 5 miles from one of the largest Strategic Air Command bases. We would've had about 20 minutes from first radar sighting RUS nukes to vaporization. Does have a tendency to focus the mind.
I distinctly remember standing outside at my elementary school on the day of the Cuban missile crisis (I was 7) while authorities carried in supplies to prepare it to use as a fallout shelter. Adults probably assumed that we had no idea what was going on, but we all did.
I think you're right: in retrospect, none of the more recent psyops worried me. When one of one's earliest memories is fear of instant annihilation, everything else seems tame.
I agree with you. I was suspicious from the start because my fear was that pandemic response would ultimately include mandated vaccines and vaccine passports as part of a larger digital tracking project. This fear has come true.
It wasn't until mask wearing became synonymous with the anti-Trump orthodoxy that I became convinced that there was a political agenda behind lockdowns and other forms of Covid response. This was proved to be true when taking the 'Trump vaccines' was co-opted by Biden and the leftists as a basic expression of patriotic fealty.
I remember seeing Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer marching shoulder to shoulder with BLM activists during one of her own lockdowns. Things that make you go Hmmmm.
Ah, Whitmer. This would be the same Gov. Whitmer the new COINTELPRO gang at the FBI recently entrapped a bunch of militia types into plotting to kidnap.. But they would never pull any sort of neo-COINTELPRO false flag shenanigans at the Washington Capitol, no Sir.
Oh no she very much did but she's also had a long time rep for being evil where as Whitmer was new. I point this out only b/c of the feminist's that go on about how if only it were a women in charge we'd not have any problems and that's not true. Women can be just as evil and abusive of their power.
I was also trying to stay within the realm of physically attractive evil women, something I would not ascribe to Merkel. I think Britain's first female PM, Margaret Thatcher was a good leader but far from attractive. It's the women in power with sexual appeal that can use that appeal as a weapon. For men this isn't so easily done as there are very few men the average heterosexual women would find physically attractive enough to let the man use his sexual attraction to manipulate her. Women are just different form men when it comes to sexual attraction and women in power are able to use that. Men can use their position of power to get sex but nit use the sex to manipulate a woman they are not romantically involved with.
Imagine every single adult male & female in the US. Ask each of them to rate the person in the other group on a scale of 1-10. You will find men rate women higher than women do men but that’s because women don’t view sex in a non-committed relationship the way men do. Now there are men who no matter how hot the women is will not have sex with her because he needs for their to be that emotional connection but the majority of women are this way where as its not the majority of men. Thus women in power who are sexually attractive can use that as a kind of weapon.
Additional good examples but Witmer is the modern woman, the modern woman that feminists tell us would be able to run things without the abuses that men engage in when they are in control.
Yes, these older examples are impressive somehow. Those women weren't beholden to a chorus of gynocrats and chanting thinfellows, openly proclaiming their pride in "women" as such and speaking moronically of "empowerment." Ugh.
There is nothing to add here. It was the BLM riots.
I had questions about containment before them - how do you contain a respiratory virus? - but I distinctly recall seeing a BLM protest in NY where nurses/doctors dressed head to toe in PPE (which was in very short supply) were outside in a dense crowd cheering on the protest.
In a real pandemic, this would have been unthinkable.
Oh yes this too, was huge. You couldn't go to celebrations like a wedding or to say goodbye to a loved one at a funeral surrounded by other loved ones or even attend church but you could riot for BLM. It was a huge insult. Especially the ones who had to say goodbye over FaceTime to a loved one. Absolute insanity. I have lived my life normally since then unvaccinated.
Yes-public rioting is a public health necessity. Also, Fauci went on snapchat and said you couldn't see relatives but that dating app hookups were fine.
This was the beginning of skepticism for me. Then, in the ensuing months, a series of local and state-level officials all across the country got busted violating their own rules. The final straw for me was a female office-holder (sorry, don't remember the exact person) who sent out a tweet admonishing everyone to obey the mandates and stay home, and then it turned out she had sent the tweet while vacationing in the Bahamas or some such.
I agree with this, but...everything is like this now. Nothing makes sense in any area at this point and it hasn't for 6 years at least. The Regime is insane.
I am also...shocked at how millions turned out to fight the murder of one man, and now at least here in portland oregon handfuls of people are protesting the murder of millions in the US and millions more abroad (there is serious protest abroad yes). But the chasm here...will folks ever wake to this overall, it is a more serious threat than police violence alone. Incomparable.
I've said this before, but part of my philosophical rule-of-thumb is that I immediately become skeptical of a narrative that I'm not allowed to question. Truth does not fear investigation. Asking legitimate questions about lockdowns in general was not met with a good faith effort to discover the truth. It was met with harassment, censorship, doxxing, intimidation, etc. etc. This has gone to apply to everything about the official narrative.
This is a fantastic observation! In my rambling response I did not mention what was maybe the biggest factor in my "discovery" that we were being played. I have an almost pathological distrust of the government. When they impose mandates, particularly when they refuse to offer justification other than, "because we said so," my hackles begin to flare. What baw5xc refers to as a "philosophical rule-of-thumb" is absolute gold.
Excellent advice and I think that what you describe is a quality many here share - we question, and expect to be able to question. Whether the question leads anywhere is a different matter.
Why? What? How do you know that? What happens if you are wrong? Who is paying? Who bears the blame? Where did this come from? How do we get rid of it? and so on, including follow-up questions such as "Which experts? What are their names?"
Very true; the late Richard Feynman (one of the 20th century's great physicists) said: "I would rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned"
Its a damn shame we can't like posts more than once. On Rumble you can award more then one Rumble point (or whatever they call it) to a video and not just do a thumbs up or down.
And then they revisited the lab leak theory at the exact moment the vaccines first became available. They wanted to plant the seed that the virus might be a FrankenVirus, MAYBE, but not follow that thread to far or too close that it actually lead to an investigation of further reporting. Just enough to let them pretend *this virus is different* without explaining why.
Easy: The U.S. government essentially saying, "We've quickly created mRNA vaccines that have never been tried before to defeat one of the coronaviruses, which are notoriously impossible to vaccinate against. And oh yeah, by the way, we have no idea whatsoever what the long-term effects might be. Is that a problem?"
This was a big one, for sure. How convenient, eh? Just like the conveniently coordinated world-wide talking points that all materialized at the exact same moment? Yeah.
Yes ! that too. How can there be a vaccine in a few months, whereas in 100 years they could not make on? I heard a couple months ago, that for the first in 30 years, they got a more or less working malaria one.
Its not beyond the realm of possibility but it is highly suspect. This is the first mRNA based vaccine so its not beyond the realm of possibility that a radical change in vaccine technology could do something like this but in the case of the covid vaccine I think that is just wishful thinking or an outright lie depending on who you are (government/corp rep versus citizen)
As soon as I heard they planned to shut down the economy for 2 weeks, which was very very early on in my country, I knew the entire thing was a lie. I'm an economist. You don't turn the fucking economy on and off. That's not how it works. It's not about money or the GDP (an idiotic metric). Shutting it down means a lot of people are going to suffer and suffer a lot. They were still counting deaths from 2008 a decade later. We'll be counting them for decades more because idiotic and irresponsible public health officers (the same ones saying only they can weigh in on the vaccine cause it saves lives reee) came into my domain. Drug overdoses, suicides, supply chain issues, poverty, income inequality... All up. The drinking issues and depression will cause deaths that will be hard to even quantify. All because doctors thought they knew how to run an economy.
We’ve completely destroyed a generation of kids in the US - mostly the poor and middle class kids in big Dem run urban areas who were already suffering from shit “theories” being pushed on nonstop in our public “schools” on kids as young as 5 year olds about gender and race.
We’ve shielded our young kids as much as possible with academically elite non-woke private Christian school, lots of travel - we just got home from a family trip to Jamaica Friday night - showing them the data, reiterating always read source documents and look at the data yourself. We’ve reminded them often they can leave and feel no guilt because the burden in NC cities (not rural areas though) will be immense for the their generation when they grow up.
We remind them that their parents voted for open schools, school choice for ALL kids, no masks, an open economy, and targeted protection via indoor air purification for the vulnerable. We were loud, gave our time and treasure, and never backed down.
They don’t owe anyone anything and they bear zero responsibility for the abject failure of other parents in our community. We tell them to find somewhere that appreciated children and build a life there if they want - guilt free. They are always welcome to come home, but we will gladly follow them.
I'm Canadian and the inability to leave without being vaccinated is a huge issue for us. Especially since all of the provincial governments seem to be compromised.
i live 2 hours away from the BC border in the us. I miss all my Vancouver friends. I think that you cant leave is insane. that i cant come in. I have heard on twitter that the eastern border is easier to get through but it so feels like nazi germany.
Same. I majored in Econ and I think this was the reason for my gut feel on Day 1 of lockdown. My mother said 'it's just the economy, it will come back and we need to save lives.' I had to bite my tongue since it wasn't worth arguing at the time.
At the time, I thought OK two weeks. Was great to drive on nearly empty streets. Then cases continued to increase. Well OK, NM has cultural issues where families are concerned. Shortly thereafter the governor was praised on national TV for her stellar efforts in copying a much richer, more urban CA. She consulted with the best experts as native Americans travelled together into towns for stables, got ill and as the death rate soared, she was powerless except to lock down and impose more rules that tended to bunch people. Of course, the two weeks have turned into two years. The numbers suggest all the effort did exactly nothing except to trash a poor state further. Oh, it could have been worse say the supporters except for the evidence. In the process family businesses along with prospects died and children of the poor will suffer another lost generation mired in poverty.
All in a futile effort to avoid illness that kills selectively the elderly who could have been protected from exposure at a much lower cost. One day reality will arrive as we look back and I don't think it will be pleasing to some politicians - or so I might wish.
.1. N95 may reduce exposure. Cloth masks a joke. If aerosolized, nothing will stop it.
2. You can't diagnose/differentiate exposure from infection by pcr.
3. Reduction from 3 tests to 2 with pcr rollout (on US) made results even less accurate. Intuitively suspected 40 cycles way too high
4. Fauci admitted to (ig)noble mask lie.
5. I expected protection of vulnerable, who were known by March. Was shocked at lockdowns.
6. Coronaviruses are notoriously mutagenic, which is why no useful vax against them has ever been produced. Cannot possibly develop, manufacture & distribute faster than it can mutate.
7 Asymptomatic spreaders? Seriously?
On the "pseudo-vaxes":
1. My 1st question on reading description was "how long does the artificial mRNA persist?" Never saw any data, only vague assurances.
2. My 2nd question was "What if the spike causes the disease?" Salk Institute answered thay question in their 4/30/21 press announcement.
Lockdowns didn't really impact me since I'm rural. Masks annoying. Not jabbed & they'll have to kill me 1st.
Hi, first my background is important. I am an engineer and work in software. In the early 90's I worked for pharma building clinical trial systems to collect data for analysis and regulatory submission. I started researching vaccine when i had kids early 2000's. My starting assumption was they were safe and effective. I read all the books at the time and followed up all the references.
I was satisfied enough and was going to proceed with full vaccination schedule when i came across an article about mercury and simpsonwood. I didn't believe the article so I downloaded the transcript of the conference and read the whole thing. I was shocked by what i read and then i did a really deep dive into the system of regulation. As the 2000's progressed the topic of vaccination progressively became more and more contentious as the industry was looking to replace the lost revenue from their dwindling pipeline of drugs. The deterioration of the regulatory bodies and peer reviewed science is actually well documented. I invested hundreds and hundreds of hour researching risks of vaccines and risks of disease in developed world. I went to the local medical stacks to pull paper studies to determine the real risks of some of these diseases prior to mass vaccination. Vaccine sales is a business of fear. Like insurance.
I also watched the attempt of the WHO and pharma to create a similar scare with H1N1 flu in 2009. I read all of the science on that and I also knew how bad flu tracking statistics were.
In late 2019 the first rumours of SARS-COV2 registered on my radar and i was half expecting a repeat of 2019. Needless to say shocked when Italy subsequently went into lockdown and panic ensued without anyone looking at the actual death statistics.
I saw the early death numbers from china and the fact that it was all elderly confirmed what I suspected that it was going to be equivalent in severity to a bad flu season. Of course nothing could be certain but i also knew that all the pandemic protocols said don't close things. Michael Levitt and John Ioannidis, Roger Hodkinson all confirmed what I saw in the data early on.
I also recognized panic when I saw it. I paid very close attention to the UK media which was the only reasonable source of skepticism at the time and a poor one at that.
Once i saw Boris reverse strategies i informed my boss that we better prepare to work remotely and make sure we can turn on a dime because we were going to get locked down. He thought I was crazy. 3 weeks later he thought I was a genius (we are in Canada) because we followed the UK policies by about 3-6 weeks.
I knew from the beginning because i already knew the WHO + pharma tried the same in 2009. I am pretty convinced that the medical officers of health 11 years ago were baby boomers or post war children. People who could remember hardship and people who were trained in medical schools prior to pharma funding and the perversion of evidence based medicine through marketing science. Those medical officers of health barely won the war against panic in 2009. Sadly, they all retired in the interim and have been replaced by a new generation who grew up 100 percent under pharma and extreme risk aversion. Somehow the primal fear of bugs has allowed them to sideline emergency planners -- mostly army trained -- who would never have contemplated a strategy of containment.
They have said as much. In Canada there have been only a small handful of skeptical voices who are real experts, namely former emergency planners, and former medical officers of health. They were all ignored. There were only 2 contemporary doctors who spoke out. dr Byram Bridle and Dr Hodkinson. We owe them a lot.
That is my story of being awake the whole time. My real awakening was when i started researching vaccines after having a child 20 years before.
One last addition I forgot. I knew we were in big trouble when the lockdowns began, and especially here in Canada, when the charter of rights and freedoms was summarily discarded -- and continues to be discarded -- by every level of government, while the courts essentially cheered them on.
This shocked me to the core, very very early. I attribute that to my parents. They were both born during the second world war, with one parent subsequently escaping with nothing from the soviets in Hungary but the clothes on their backs. The other parent growing up in the aftermath of Nazi occupation. My family got both sides of totalitarian regimes. From stories from my grandparents, uncles, aunts, parents, I guess I inherited a keen sense of danger from these types of regimes and I recognized it for what it was instantly.
In a way, the fear made people look to government for a solution. In these modern times we have slipped somewhat is collective self reliance. We have allowed ourselves to become more dependant on government. Government, itself, has played a part in that learned helplessness by taking over a lot of what once were community issues that we resolved as neighbors. We of course are very very busy, too busy to help others. As fear permeated society we asked government "do something". They decided that the playbooks of old were not as wise and that mass containment was possible. So we got what we asked for, nevermind how incompetent the mitigations have been. And now politicians never, never admit error. The governments everywhere are trying to spin their way out of the resulting calamity. Incompetence is becoming obvious slowly as public awareness builds.
"primal fear of bugs" - Interesting observation. My boyhood was spent capturing and examining bugs, etc. Walking through fields often eating blackberries in the fields. Lucky me.
I have observed the following. If you walk in a room and see everyone with a mask on, I think most people will immediately feel a sense of danger.
I suspect it's well documented, that people are naturally afraid of someone visibly dying from a disease that they did not understand. There are many historical examples including leprosy etc.
The last evidence in the present day, is that people do not research pathogenic diseases or frankly any diseases themselves, and I would assert it is out of fear of what they might find out. I know people that fear getting diagnosed because they fear the diagnosis. I know others who won't do an ounce of research because they simply want the doctor "expert" to tell them what to do. I believe one of the major failings of the medical system -- which does neither doctors, nor patients any favours -- is that people abdicate their health decisions to someone else out of fear. A lot of people don't want to take ownership of their own health decisions, they simply want a one pill fix... right now.
As for pathogens, I think we still have a primal fear of what we can't see and don't understand. Our current western society certainly has a very awkward relationship with death as this whole pandemic fear has preyed on people severe adversity to any risk of death or frankly the death of their parents.
I can't tell you how many people advocated for elderly (their parents) to be locked away to save them from COVID -- without asking what they wanted. So many died of loneliness. I think there are a handful of fundamental fears at play here.
I agree. fear is fundamental, the source is not being able to take responsibility for the beauty of life. in my mind covid has been a great teacher in this, helping people to dig deep into their truth.
Your kids are the lucky ones. I hope they survive the "new generation" of medical authorities, because, as you perfectly summed it up: "Vaccine sales is a business of fear. Like insurance." So very true.
Coersion here is very effective. Young adults simply want to get on with life and have a different assessment of risks. I probably would have done the same at that age.
my son didn't care. his idea of risk assessment is very different than mine and he wanted to finish school and graduate. i had to remind my self of the insane things i would put into my body at his age. very different but from a very similar place. self care is hard come by.
George E - not too late to teach one's kids critical thinking skills. The Youth used to have a different idea of "risk", but it is now commercially projected upon them. The Carrot seems to work, sadly.
We used to live our lives because we were Invincible (as all were in their twenties). Te generations grew up with that mindset. Youth is wasted on the youth....Risk is now commercially compromised on the Youth. Facebook, Instagram, TikTok - that's where they get their information. I used to cycle to the library on Saturdays.....and here we are haha.
I agree it's never too late. My kids can think critically, it is a difference of risk assessment and objectives. I can't argue with that. The decisions are well thought out.
Agreed. The entire incestuous pharmco-agency corrupt relationship has always been about money. Vaccines, lol -- look into the history of when vaccines appeared for the diseases and when the diseases actually ended.
Interesting that you feel Canada followed the UK. That seems no longer to be true. For some reason we in the UK are virtually libertarian (sic) on this stuff compared to Canada and mainland Europe. I have no idea why this is, except that Tory backbenchers have some mystical hold over Tory prime ministers, and some of them do have something that resemble principles when it comes to the right wing conception of civil liberties.
Yes it is true, there are a lot more true believers here. For quite a long while we were trailing your policies. That time period has now extended significantly to the order of months. We were however far more heavily influenced by Ferguson et al, than anything from the US. All the early policies were copies of the UK versions.
But then we went total COVIDIAN mainly because there is no diversity of press. You have the Telegraph and Dailymail, we have nothing on the other side. Crickets, so we're stuck.
I figure we'll snap out when the US finishes their political civil war on COVID -- by the mid term elections, and then we'll be forced to wake up. Maybe a totally free UK would influence us too, but I'm not holding my breathe.
Totally speculative but I am actually Scottish and I know how collectivist we are, and that we have gone significantly crazier over all this than the English.
Canada is culturally partly Scottish, and also with the French influence and its statist tendencies, I think you've got the recipe for danger.
Niall Ferguson was also influential on the Trump administration, believe it or not, albeit through Trump's toleration (why?) of arch-pandemicists Fauci & Birx. The simple reason for his influence is, he's not so much an Imperial College guy as a Gates Foundation guy. And that gets us into the central question of why all these governments followed and follow this lockstep transnational technocratic programme....
Be careful there. *Niall* Ferguson is a Scottish historian; *Neil* Ferguson is the git at Imperial College London who ran the early modeling that freaked everybody out about projected Covid deaths. Neil Ferguson apparently has a history of advising governments with really bad models.
I just finished Niall Ferguson's book Doom about various catastrophes throughout history, on the background of our current pandemic. Unfortunately it was published in the fall of 2020, before the vaccines were released – I hope he updates it soon.
And the fact that Neil Ferguson has a forecasting track record almost completely consisting of monumental errors makes it absolutely astonishing that anybody pays any attention to him.
Yes, i do recognize the impact of the ferguson fauci birx triangle. It is with deep irony that the US is ultimately likely to have created this mess but is also the most resilient against it.
I sympathize for the scots and the irish who went bonkers like us. I pity our children more though. We are among the worst offenders of school closures worldwide. Ontario's utter collapse of the public school system is a tragedy beyond comprehension. It could be a decade to restore it.
I get your point, but it's generous to call the UK libertarian when 1) we introduced covid passes for nightlife and large events last month and barely anyone batted an eyelid (in fact all the football clubs and many arts & culture venues have been enforcing them since September); 2) things have been rather restrictive in the devolved nations; 3) Parliament approved mandates for care home and healthcare staff; and 4) we were in continuous lockdown for the better part of a year and had some of the harshest laws against household mixing.
Also, mainland Europe is varied. My family in Madrid has been living very normally (with the exception of masks) since July 2020, when regional president Isabel Ayuso chose to reopen nearly everything following the end of the national lockdown. I think we have to be careful not to conflate actions in France, Italy, Austria, Germany and Holland with the entirety of Europe.
Uk libertarian, please. you may have a population of libertarians, but you also have a bunch of scared nanny-loving psychopaths. My daughter lives there, and her in-laws are scared to death and will do anything the government tells them to do, and they do their best version of “Karen” to make sure everyone else falls in line.
Very well said! Good point about the age of the people currently in charge of public health versus 2009.
I'm now 68; when I was a kid we all had measles and chickenpox, and nobody was worried about dying. I lived in Wyoming in 2009 during the swine flu "scare". It was on our radar but nobody was worried about it, despite the fact that two people I know from my small town had to get life-flighted to Salt Lake City; one was in a coma for months.
H1N1 was actually a bit novel in that it didn't kill a lot of people, but it killed people that normally don't die from flu -- the working class. Last I read, it looked like a small number of cases of ADE, from prior exposure to some other flu (or vaccine) which created immune complexes and cytokine storms, ARDS and death.
The Nature article is fascinating in that they looked at people who had died in earlier "pandemic" flus and confirmed similar findings.
Canadian scientists also ran 4 different studies that all confirmed that prior vaccination with flu vaccine increased susceptibility to acquiring H1N1 infection -- fortunately without serious outcomes since for most people the flu was actually very very mild -- irony.
That was the first real proof in my mind that mass vaccination is a foolish strategy. The real danger of a pandemic isn't Ebola with measles transmission. I actually think that is impossible in nature. The real danger is a slightly worse flu that moves fast that knocks everyone out of commission at the same time. That is how systems collapse. What is the best defense against a fast moving non deadly disease? Immune DIVERSITY, not homogeneity. Mass vaccination creates a uniform immune landscape which any opportunistic escape variant will quickly saturate completely and knock out everyone at the same time. Hence the stress on the HC system that is staffed conveniently by everyone with useless antibodies against a b-1 vs Omicron. Second proof of the extreme foolishness of mass vaccinating against seasonal virus'.
CBC radio did a program years ago where they interviewed indigenous survivors of the spanish flu. Like most diseases it disproportionally devastated indigenous communities. The lady who was interviewed said the only reason she survived was because her very elderly grandmother didn't get sick and kept feeding and watering her family. All they needed was basic care to survive, but if everyone was sick there was no one left to get water or food.
80% of the dead from H1N1 were younger than 60 years old. Had they reported deaths from or with H1N1 the way they wanted to (like the do from or with COVID-19), the estimates are there were 20 times more deaths than recorded. As mentioned in these comments. Public health had been trying to scare and increase vaccine penetration since 2003 or 2004. Wolfgang Wodarg and some of his coalition of doctors have an excellent job of calling these psychopaths out from day one.
Well, looking back on it now, at my friend that was in a coma for months and almost died, I can't help wondering if maybe she was having a reaction to the flu vaccine. Unfortunately I can't remember if she actually was sick with flu before they had to fly her away. I know for a fact that she had been vaccinated.
I had not realized it until I read Michael Lewis' book The Premonition - A Pandemic Story that under George W, the white house drafted a pandemic plan. One if its main authors reviewed data from the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic and determined that the existing data showing lockdowns did not work had misinterpreted the data and that the data showed that the problem was that lockdowns had occurred too late. It sure seems as if this may have been the basis for the flatten the curve lockdowns which of course, were too late to accomplish anything. Interestingly enough, one of the authors had wanted hospitals to test patients who arrived at the ER with pneumonia for covid in an attempt to determine the spread of the disease but the CDC refused to approve the testing. As China has illustrated, if done soon enough, one can contain the virus for some time, but unless the rest of world follows your same plan with no modifications, you will only delay the inevitable. Might Omicron actually save China from itself?
I am not convinced of that since the pandemic plans that were formed were driven by SARS during that timeline. I don't doubt one person argued that, but there isn't even any good data to show that the spanish flu was actually one single pathogen. I have seen analysis showing a lot of people died of pneumonia from wearing masks.
Members of the health complex during Bush also wanted to restart vaccinating against smallpox as they were worried about it being used as a bioweapon. That was also shot down by one of the original members of the eradication team who stated he though smallpox would have ultimately disappeared without the vaccine. Quarantine and isolation was the main tool used there. That vaccine caused to much damage to justify. So there were a lot of crazy ideas brought forth during the Bush era.
As far as I know from reading the WHO documentation and the Canadian pandemic plans, that the whole premise -- based on a holistic view -- was to keep society functioning as close to normal as possible. Masks were known to be useless.
This lockdown gained popularity from the viral nature of The Hammer and the Dance paper. We don't really know how that rose to prominence but we do know that China fomented fear in Italy -- the location of the first lockdown -- with their state controlled media trolls. If you're read any of TheEthicalSkeptic's papers, he's providing compelling evidence that the virus was circulating in Asia already in 2018/2019 based on a variety of evidence included excess deaths among elderly in those nations during that time. It would also explain prior immunity in those regions.
There are a lot of dots we haven't connected yet, but I no longer buy the argument that there was no planning involved. I can't speak to intent, but there was some dirty business going on somewhere. Omicron itself is a mystery. It almost certainly came from a lab, the question is why.
I 100% agree that the virus was already killing people (mostly the old and sick) back in 2018. Stanford Docs thought it was killing the elderly in spring 2019. Random deaths of elderly found in their homes in the Bay Area were the reason they thought it was already in San Francisco Bay Area. It also explains why the Bay Area did so well compared to the rest of the US and LA. WUHAN and SF have a massive number of daily visitors every single day, more so than anywhere else in the US.
Me too in September 2019, all the symptoms that I later read as classic Covid-19. Two weeks of discomfit; but no hospitalisation and my immune system eventually coped OK. I happened to be living at the time in a small town with reasonable numbers of Chinese tourists coming in for stays, bus loads of them, at times crowding the local solitary supermarket. Then I read last year of some indications that what came to be labelled as SARS-CoV-2 may have been evident in China as early as July/August 2019. So possibly this thing has been around a bit longer than the official narrative would indicate.
Omicron is indeed a bit unexpected. It's almost as if it has been engineered as a true traditional vaccine (unlike the mRNA technology) to blunt SARS-CoV-2 and bring things to a close. Maybe that's a bit far out, but in its mildness of symptoms it has all the hallmarks of the old style immunising vaccine.
Their plan also included the rapid closure of all schools which we have since observed would have made little or no difference. By no means would I praise the Bush Administration; I was just surprised to see that the White House drafted a plan back during his time.
I have questioned the Wuhan leak for one reason and I have yet to see a good counterargument. Prior to Wuhan being placed in lockdown, the first cases had already been observed in Italy, the USA, Iran, and several countries in Asia. Although Wuhan is a large Chinese city, it is by no means an international air hub. So the majority of those Chinese who supposedly carried the virus to other countries from Wuhan would have to had traveled via other major cities in China. Yet none of those cities had huge outbreaks nor were locked down nearly as tightly as Wuhan. Robert Unz likes to focus on Iran as being a possible target of a US virus leak, I have not seen any evidence to confirm that, but it is odd that Iran would have been one of the first countries hit particularly hard, given that it is not a tourist beckon for the Chinese, unlike the other countries where the virus was first observed. Please share any additional information you might have.
Although this guy can be hard to read due to his sometimes cryptic writing, he brings a lot of evidence to bear to support his hypothesis in this paper.
They say it is very modified - beyond a natural design. Omicron diverted early in the plague days, and weirdly somehow landed here in time to save us. Doesn't make sense unless it has to make sense. If we work backwards, I'm ok. You're so so.
China may have locked down Wuhan but they kept their airports open and sent the virus worldwide. They also knew how to treat the disease, something they still hadn't completely shared with the west.
I curious about your comment with respect to knowing how to treat the disease. Could you elaborate? I know China relies much more on homeopathic treatments rather than patented medicines and I wonder if that is not one of the reasons why their treatments might not have been used in the West.
As I mentioned in another comment, the first reported cases outside of China occurred before Wuhan shut down, so having airports open after Wuhan locked, was of little significance.
Doctor McCullough talks about treatments that he believes the Chinese used and developed. For example, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, etc. Most importantly, you have to ask yourself why we did not try and develop treatments. Instead, rogue doctors were the only ones, and they were risking their medical licenses.
I'm not sure you are correct about your comment regarding first known cases outside of Wuhan. Wuhan locked down on January 23rd. I'm not aware of anywhere in the world that on the 23rd of January already had a positive SARS-CoV-2 test.
The west seemed content to implement a policy of containment until a vaccine becomes available. Early treatments seemed much less important and any small trial that showed negative results doomed that particular treatment immediately. It was as if they had completely forgotten about the HIV cocktail. Only in combination do those drugs work - had they used the same philosophy now used for covid, they would have written off every drug within the cocktail.
As for cases outside of Wuhan prior to Jan 23rd, I searched a bit and found these:
A Washington state resident becomes the first person in the United States with a confirmed case of the 2019 novel coronavirus, having returned from Wuhan on January 15, thanks to overnight polymerase chain reaction testing.
13 January 2020 - Officials confirm a case of COVID-19 in Thailand, the first recorded case outside of China.
On 24 January, France has officially notified to the WHO Regional Office for Europe of 3 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV. Two patients were detected in Paris and one in Bordeaux. All 3 had travelled from Wuhan, China and are now hospitalized in France.
I would have to assume that there were quite a few others, it is very likely that they would have simply been recorded as pneumonia patients, especially in smaller city hospitals.
I would not believe anything the Chinese said about Coronavirus. There is evidence that indicates they knew about this already in 2018. I would assume everything from them was propaganda.
I was not aware that China used a lot of homeopathy. They do have Traditional Chinese medicine which is not at all like homeopathy. I read a TCM report early spring 2020 on how to treat COVID-19 with TCM medicines.
It is also likely they had prior immunity which is why their case counts are so low across all of that region of the world.
3. "Ivermectin does not work and must not be used"
Also... for anyone who was inclined to do the research, the "possible" side effects of the mRNA injections was posted, either on the CDC or FDA website, in early 2020. They included ALL of the side effects we now know are true. I assume that page has now been deleted.
WHY IS IT A SCAM? As you rightly mention, Shibumi, the vilification of the medical treatments you mention, coupled with media refusing to debate fairly anywhere or with anyone. The weird vilification of doctors, calling them misinformation spreaders. I felt that was very immature and unprofessional and UNUSUAL. It was the UNUSUAL aspect of it that aroused my suspicions, it was too blatantly defensive? Also I was once involved in a cult and cults typically create cultic types of environment of being closed to the opinion and dissent of others and only their information is the truth. But look we the dissenters were right and they the merchants of the earth are very worried, for their time is short and the useless eaters are gaining ground. Folks these are principalities in high spiritual places on a bounty hunt for our souls, the world say it is the great reset, genocide, demicide, yes it is, but it is a spiritual quest for our souls.
Louisa Watts you are spot on! As a daily reader of Dr. Mercola for 10+ years, I was surprised initially to see his warnings, and a new slew of "Trumpian" commenters, who raged about "personal freedom". But the total censorship of anything other than the jab was definitely a paradigm shift for me. All roads led to the jab. And still do.
Yes they ran into defend their tuck shop before their next delivery came. They aroused suspicion. You would have thought with their spin doctors to hand, they could have executed a more pristine performance.
Yup, that was it for me as well. They knew then it mostly targeted the very elderly and already sick. IFR was like a bad flu for those elderly. It was the perfect test case and they absolutely blew it.
Doubt they blew it. They must have known but used the most exaggerated modeling scenario from a modeler that had been repeatedly gravely wrong in the past.
To think, that was early February 2020, before the world shut down, and they had all the info they needed to go forward.. Try to protect the elderly, the rest of you will make it through this.
1. I was an early mask advocate (Apr/May 2020) then I was made aware (June 2020) of the WHO document containing the meta analysis of the mask rct's for influenza. I started investigating masking in general which led me to dismiss their claims that masks were effective. I also learned a new term for "and then a miracle occurred" => mechanistic plausibility.
2. I started noticing that the lock down severity indices were not correlated with mortality rates.
3. The whole debate surrounding how Sweden was managing their response convinced me that we were not applying a risk-benefit analysis to much - if any - of the PH sanctioned "mitigations".
4. Denial of natural immunity.
For me all of these factors came into focus during mid/late Summer 2020. I learned quite a bit along the way as I am a math/software specialist.
With the caveat that the human mind is great at constructing a coherent story that fits its beliefs and memory, here is my submission. My first indication that something rotten was afoot was the Diamond Princess data. Looking at that experience, and that data, it did not make sense to react the way we did. Now, in full disclosure, it took me months and months to figure out that the COVID Dumpster Fire™ was never about data.
Maybe that was my second clue. I noticed many writers, myself included, providing analysis and data that seemed to run counter to the policy approaches being taken. Yet, this was to no avail! As an engineer, I had (have) an almost religious belief in the power of data. It still shocks me that the data is not as useful as I would have thought (hoped) it would be. As one Twitter poster wryly observed, "Looks like only 6 of us paid attention in stats 101."
My third clue was when the governor of my state--the recently-deposed Emperor Cuomo--invited a selection of, basically, rich guys, many of whom were not disease experts, including Bill Gates, to devise a way to "safely open the state back up." My spidey-sense buzzed with a sharp, "What the absolute...?" Why would McKinsey be the appropriate source for such information? Various, shall we say, questionable recommendations, like bars could be open, but could not play the television, ensued. (No, I am not kidding.) One does not need to be an epidemiologist or virologist or statistician to see that recommendation as barking lunacy.
Around the same time, people I followed on Twitter began to post pictures of the W.H.O. web pages that ostensibly informed appropriate behavior regarding respiratory viruses. For convenience, these recommendations were generally in the form of matrices. These matrices contained information such as, "there is no data showing that masks work" or "there is no data showing that sanitizing surfaces works," yet those approaches were being applied wholesale and often mandated. On that same list of W.H.O. resources, they had a category called "things to never do in response to a respiratory virus outbreak." Several policies from that list were also being instituted! During this timeframe, I enjoyed bouts of raucous laughter interspersed with extreme anger.
The final clue arrived when I attempted to develop a "nomological network of cumulative evidence" about masking. This approach was outlined in a book, written by an evolutionary behavioral scientist, that I had just finished reading. That led me to consult the CDC website, since the most conservative approach is to consult the primary source being cited by the policy people, particularly if you disagree with the policy. To my surprise, the references--most of which I downloaded and read--did not provide legitimate, scientific, RCT-derived, supportive data for the policy recommendations and/or mandates. (They still do not.) I am still struggling with the "stickiness" of masks as an approach that reasonably intelligent people use voluntarily.
It took me months to notice things like hospital reimbursement policy or technical performance data of the mRNA treatments or the (now obvious) vilification of existing treatments and remedies to justify the Emergency Use Authorization for the mRNA treatments. By that point, I realized we were being fed a line of bovine feces, intravenously. We were all riding the Crazy Train, and the conductors were using a map unrelated to reality or science. However, Pfizer was making a boatload of money! The same is true of the people who initially posited that PCR testing was a "gold standard" but that was, again, too nuanced for me to notice initially.
My current state-of-mind is realization that we are in the midst of a shared group psychosis, that has taken on the timbre of a religious experience, on both sides. I have not the faintest clue how or when it ends, but I have given up thinking I have any clue on that point. (Feel free to cite me, should you use this posting, as "The Wiltster" although I am fine with using my actual name, should that be necessary.)
"My current state-of-mind is realization that we are in the midst of a shared group psychosis, that has taken on the timbre of a religious experience, on both sides."
When I heard saw how officials reacted to Trump mentioning hydroxychloroquine, I then tracked down the original chinese study that showed they gave fatal doses to people who were nearly dead already.
And when the press didn't report on the fatal doses being purposefully given to end-stage people, and I saw HCQ had been used safely for decades, I knew it was a sham.
Odd how they would react to this drug. I understand they may hate Trump and since he brought it up, I could see them be skeptical but wouldn't you at least hope for it to work so the pandemic can end?
One would hope... but there are a LOT of agendas out there that are taking advantage of (or planning on) this. China was already struggling under Trump's tariff's and more were coming, Dems wanted him out, Klaus Schwab has the world to subjugate, and all this before lunch time!
BP got an EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for the jabs. They could only get the EUA if there were no existing and reasonable treatments. Therefore, they had to deny any and all possible treatments. I just heard someone mention that the EUA is now up for renewal, so if all this is true, it could partly explain all the hysteria surrounding Omicron.
I've heard this before but both remdesivir and monoclonal antibodies are considered treatments so I don't know if this is true. Maybe they just don't meet the specific threshold for reasonable treatments?
I was a senior in American high school at the time, having been forced out of in-person school for give or take three months. Lucky as I was, my school still held regular classes online with competent instructors, and I could finish up the year's work without much hassle. Most everyone I knew personally took the transition decently well, as did my left-leaning parents, both working from home in guest-bedrooms-turned-offices, as my sister soldiered on with her university course work in - ironically - Public Health. My teachers were decidedly optimistic about the future, having lived through SARS-1, and (albeit heavily gutted) AP exams came and went as pretty much everyone expected them to. The general attitude of myself, and most everyone I knew, was that the feds knew what they were doing, and would lead us out of this mess before Summer. The stretch from 2 weeks to 2 months, then three, was something of mild concern, but nothing to agonize about in the long run. After all, the government knew best.
Three days before my virtual graduation, I watched Minneapolis burn live on YouTube.
I expected outrage, at the idea that these people would so brazenly break the lockdown we* (naive, I know) worked so hard to slow the spread for. At the very least, that major party leaders would come together and condemn if not the nature of mass street protests in a pandemic, then at least the rioting and looting itself. Instead, every major corporate outlet left of Fox News wrote waxing puff-pieces about an open letter, signed by over a thousand 'health professionals', calling for the continuation of these 'protests for racial justice' - despite what I'd been told was the most omnipresent, dangerous threat to my health since the Spanish Flu. Never mind the protestors against Whitmer in Michigan, whose policies even my parents considered excessive, were dismissed as nothing more than evil, science-denying trump supporters and white supremacists, and fosters of a super-spreader event of the highest order. All the while, the destruction and chaos I saw all, straight from the amateur streamers on the ground, was explained away as simply my lying eyes - the protests were 'fiery but mostly peaceful', or so the story went.
What little faith I had left crumbled to pieces in the coming weeks, as more and more riots broke out across America, with official responses ranging from muteness to outright support. Suddenly, the all-encompassing focus on Corona was thrown by the wayside, and as if by an invisible hand, the 'national conversation' had shifted away from a pandemic. You couldn't just ignore a pandemic, picking and choosing which mass gatherings in the street were 'safe', right? But social justice trumped social distance, and pick and choose they did.
It was perhaps at that time I realized that if the media could so brazenly lie about the protests, it followed that they were capable of lying about everything else, too. Yandex (Google being worse than useless) led me to Berenson, and it took a grand total of one day thereafter for the entire masquerade to come crashing down, taking a worldview of 18 long years with it.
As a teacher, you get an “A” on your report. Stunning clarity, critical thinking skills, and solid conclusions. Hug and thank your parents and teachers for the gift of a great education that you received. Congratulations.
I'm 66, and took the Moderna vaccine (2 doses) last Jan/Feb based on the advice of my doctor. I hesitated after listening to several people recommend against it, but in the end I trusted my doctor. (BTW - I've never taken the flu shot - I had no trouble refusing that one!) Wish I'd done the same for the Moderna shot, but what's done is done. It will be a very long time, if ever, before I trust most doctors and the government again. Sad to admit that I was a very naive 66 year old! I have many other reasons and many have already been mentioned - here's my partial list.
1. When "2 weeks to slow-the-spread to prevent hospital overcrowding" was extended.
2. When alternative therapies/solutions were ridiculed and called misinformation. (Ex. Drs. Sabine Gold, Peter McCollough, Pierre Kory and many others).
3. When the government/Fauci and msm didn't mention or encourage Americans to take steps to improve their immune systems by losing weight, and supplementing with zinc, Vit D, etc.).
4. When vaccines were recommended for all ages - yet 99.9+% survive the illness.
5. Illegal immigrants crossing the Texas border are not required to take the shots.
6. When the Indian province (Udder Pradesh??) and Mexico City basically killed Covid after distributing Home Kits (including Ivermectin) to their citizens.
7. Substack subscriptions - eugyppius and el gato malo have been most helpful to me. While much of the content and the comments are way beyond my ability to understand, I have learned so much and am very thankful.
8. Recently in North Texas white Texans have been denied monoclonal antibodies.
9. Two-hour episode with Mike Yeardon on Reiner Fuellmichs' Corona Investigative Committee's Jan. 7th podcast.
I knew by April 2020 that society was going insane. I'm not a genius. I asked obvious questions and saw that nobody in the mainstream was attempting to answer those obvious questions.
1. The medical literature from the previous decades said containment was a sham after a disease of this nature became widespread.
2. They weren't talking about the previous medical literature.
3. They didn't even attempt to provide reasons for disregarding previous norms.
4. They NEVER spoke of waves 2, 3, 4, etc. If lockdown stalls wave 1, why does that stop wave 2? It seemed like an obvious question that nobody cared to address. For months they acted as if COVID was going to be one wave then it's done.
5. COVID went from an modeled ~5% fatality rate to an actual ~0.15% very quickly. Nobody acknowledged it and the central planners changed none of their plans. It was obvious very early we weren't using data to inform our course of action.
One simple thing - there was a complete blocking of physician innovation on early treatment. I've never seen this before. Physicians normally collaborate to treat difficult or unusual illnesses. Never seen them lose licenses or be fired for doing so.
I knew something awful would happen to bring chaos to the 2020 Election so I was just waiting for it. When the media started censoring famous and well-respected doctors right away in February/March 2020, like Risch and Ioannidis, I knew what it was. Nothing ever made sense to me, after the first month.
Stanford scientist John Ioannidis finds himself under attack for questioning the prevailing wisdom about lockdowns. - April 2020
The fact that the George Floyd/BLM riots and looting were ok and encouraged from a public health perspective during a “pandemic” but anything Trump did was a superspreader event. In general, nothing made sense.
this to me was the pivotal event. local guidelines were saying shelter-in-place for everyone safety, except for protesting which was important and was just fine. So i couldn't see my family outside 6 feet apart (at the time), yet BLM protesters could bash in windows and hurt businesses, murder federal employees in Oakland while trying to burn down police stations in Portland with staff INSIDE, tear down American flags and statues, and draw swastikas on my local synagogue- all during a pandemic. okay then
Or how about no funerals for the plebs, but multiple huge ceremonies for saint Floyd?
If the protesters were black, then turnabout is fair play after 400+years of oppression and slavery exploitation. If the protesters were white ( which we saw lots of video of that) they were thugs, white supremacists, insiders trying to further incite a riot to make arrests and offer sensationalism for the MSM to gain white sympathy and continue on as normal.
This. I'm from a smaller western state and I remember people gathering at the capitol to protest the lockdowns. The local news was apoplectic about protesting during a pandemic. It was literally less than a week later when George Floyd died and suddenly protesting was encouraged. One local paper even wrote an article contending that the BLM protests didn't actually spread the virus. Complete clown show, and I haven't taken anything about this pandemic seriously ever since.
I heard from some hospital staff in S. Calif. that they were told NOT to ask for details or report ANY virus related incidents that had any roots going back to BLM riots. Even if it was volunteered!
I remember hearing about that as well.
Yep, that was an extra red pill for me too. When the "public health experts" in the US made up that handwaved pseudo-scientific argument about how "white supremacy is a bigger threat to public health than covid, so the BLM riots are a special case" it was pretty obvious that the pandemicists and woke ideologists were congenitally linked. There is one common oligarchical NGO party line out there, and it reminds me a lot of Lysenkoism under Stalin. As a lifelong environmentalist I have even begun to wonder how much of climate science has been overcooked, given that the same Davos-set liars are pushing that.
I always considered the global warming "consensus" to be contrived and the comparison with Lysenkoism has occurred to me too. An inevitable outcome of the politicization of science. I don't mean party politics but when science is harnessed to push a predetermined policy agenda.
Indeed. Science is never moved forward by consensus so that's another parallel. Science is the new religion now. All worship the vaccines.
They now worship at the altar of the religion of scientism, not science, and vaccines are their main idol
Tha vaccine is the baptism
I recognized the fake Covid computer models right away, because the fake Climate Change models use the same type of false underlying assumptions to make them “work”. You can never trust a poll either, until you understand the methodology behind it. There are hundreds of ways to skew data. Also, trace the funding of such modeling. That tells a tale too. For years, people believed that smoking was safe because Big Tobacco’s scientists said so.
I think we must distinguish between genuine environmentalism (protecting habitats, valuing nature, reducing the amount of pollution, chemicals and toxins in our atmosphere and environment -- including the food we eat) and the "climate change" agenda. The latter is ideological and is being used as a Trojan horse for UN 2030 goals which will benefit technocrats and corporations.
Agreed. I live in Florida and am a sailor. I'm all about protecting the environment from actual pollution. CO2 is not a pollutant.
Absolutely agree. For example, in reading about insect die-offs, I started thinking about how when I would go outside my house when I first moved here (in the woods in a far exurb of NYC) 15 years ago, the bugs would drive me insane, now not so much at all. Maybe I'm misremembering, but I think somethings going on there. Likewise with overfishing from what I've read.
Same. There are quite a few parallels with covid. For instance, much of the climate science is based on modeling and we know how exaggerated that can be. Also, my understanding is that the IPCC, which is affiliated with the UN, has a directive to find an anthropomorphic basis for climate change. Also, the scientists who speak out against the dominant narrative are smeared as anti-science and are censored, blacklisted etc much like with covid. The hypocrisy is rife as well with a do as I say not as I do ie. some who lecture everyone about their carbon footprints are flying around in private jets. Also you would expect these same people to be environmentally conscious but many didn't say a word about Fukushima, one of the greatest environmental disasters in recent memory and they also don't seem to give a fig about increased plastic waste in the ocean from test kits, masks etc.
For me the link is not only the technocratic-dictatorial dogma about The Science, it's the Malthusian spirit lurking in the background of both things. Now I'm not sold on "Bill Gates wants to depopulate the planet with poisonous vaccines". But these kind of elites ARE obsessed with limits to growth, and they have been since at least the mid 1970s (Club of Rome era.) I used to think this was all very benign and just about handing out condoms to Africans and creating social safety nets in the Third World so that people in shanty towns wouldn't have huge families to look after them in their old age and all that kind of stuff. But now I'm not so sure. I KNOW the very same people who make up the green movement have had the wool pulled over their eyes on this covid stuff.
As for nuclear power, there's very unlikely to be any answer to the conventional "climate crisis", but if there is one it would involve next generation reactors - another largely ignored truth.
I've heard some buzz about thorium generators but don't know their current status:
https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/129913-world-s-first-thorium-reactor-ready-to-be-built-for-cheaper-safer-nuclear-energy
White supremacy has always been the number one threat around the globe. Just ask the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere how things might have turned out had they never arrived there with their gifts of smallpox blankets.
Ask the Vietnamese how things might have turned out if there never was a need to “stop communism from expanding “ in SE Asia?
And the List goes on and on. Weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq. White woman “looked at” the wrong way by a minority resident of Greenwood Tulsa, OK in 1921.
So what’s so different now? Covid disproportionately again brings despair and death to minorities once again during this invented pandemic. And who actually benefited? White supremacists win again as shareholders and beneficiaries of massive inflation. Justice and fairness for all is what’s preached in church, not lived daily by white people. Never was and never will. How am I certain? I’m white.
White supremacy is possibly the least important thing in the world right now.
Dude. North America and Europe have the worst per capita Covid death rates in the world, e.g. 2500 per million dead in the US vs 14 per million dead in Nigeria. India, Africa, and China are doing fine in terms of mortality rates. Whites are dropping like flies.
Native Americans counter your "here's a blanket" with their "thanks, have a cigarette".
You're not making a white supremacist argument since most whites don't benefit and some are just as harmed as minorities because, despite what the news tells you, there are poor white people and the number in this group have been growing for years. Who does? The wealthy, time and time again. Note that includes some who are not white though admittedly the wealthy whites take a greater share.
China is probably benefitting the most.
Maybe by country but look at the wealth billionaires racked up:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/07/covid-19-crisis-boosts-the-fortunes-of-worlds-billionaires
I used to listen to NPR a fair amount in my car about 10-15 years ago. At one point around 2010, it was obvious that about every 3rd or 4th story on some morning drives was about global warming (as I believe it was still referred to at that point). I had really discovered US government propaganda in earnest in the run up to the Iraq war, so it became pretty obvious that GW was a psyop. It was just too forced, too in your face.
Thanks, I will check that out. I do recall the Moore controversy a bit, and Al Gore, well come on!
Last comment for the evening, I need to cut back on current events and get some hobbies - I am 52 and was quite geopolitically aware in the early 80's. I have told a couple of youngsters (even people 5 years younger than me can't really grasp what that period was like) that when I was 13 I didn't completely expect to live to 18 (and I wasn't alone), and that their GW fears strike me as quaint.
In hindsight, this wasn't a completely ridiculous fear - go look up Operation Able Archer and Stanislav Petrov if you don't know about it. I tell the young kids that while they are worried about +1.5 degrees C over 50 years, I was worried about +10k degrees C in 50 microseconds. I get a look out of that.
Give me 20 minutes I can come up with 10 future scenarios much worse that GW and not especially unlikely. So, yes, GW is obviously something other than what it is supposed to be.
I'm a few years older. Grew up about 5 miles from one of the largest Strategic Air Command bases. We would've had about 20 minutes from first radar sighting RUS nukes to vaporization. Does have a tendency to focus the mind.
I distinctly remember standing outside at my elementary school on the day of the Cuban missile crisis (I was 7) while authorities carried in supplies to prepare it to use as a fallout shelter. Adults probably assumed that we had no idea what was going on, but we all did.
I think you're right: in retrospect, none of the more recent psyops worried me. When one of one's earliest memories is fear of instant annihilation, everything else seems tame.
AND it is getting harder and harder to buy anything that does not have some kind of “environmental footprint” statement upon it.
Cheers man, I'll check that out.
I agree with you. I was suspicious from the start because my fear was that pandemic response would ultimately include mandated vaccines and vaccine passports as part of a larger digital tracking project. This fear has come true.
It wasn't until mask wearing became synonymous with the anti-Trump orthodoxy that I became convinced that there was a political agenda behind lockdowns and other forms of Covid response. This was proved to be true when taking the 'Trump vaccines' was co-opted by Biden and the leftists as a basic expression of patriotic fealty.
Fealty! You found the word I’ve been looking for!
I remember seeing Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer marching shoulder to shoulder with BLM activists during one of her own lockdowns. Things that make you go Hmmmm.
Ah, Whitmer. This would be the same Gov. Whitmer the new COINTELPRO gang at the FBI recently entrapped a bunch of militia types into plotting to kidnap.. But they would never pull any sort of neo-COINTELPRO false flag shenanigans at the Washington Capitol, no Sir.
She certainly didn’t look very worried about catching the virus. I remember thinking, “Why isn’t she afraid of getting sick?”
Whitmer is a vile and evil woman, proof that women can be just as corrupt as men in office.
Hillary Clinton didn't convince you? LOL.
Oh no she very much did but she's also had a long time rep for being evil where as Whitmer was new. I point this out only b/c of the feminist's that go on about how if only it were a women in charge we'd not have any problems and that's not true. Women can be just as evil and abusive of their power.
Angela Merkel? Queen Elizabeth (you pick which one)? Kathy Hochel, gov NY? All angels for sure.
I was also trying to stay within the realm of physically attractive evil women, something I would not ascribe to Merkel. I think Britain's first female PM, Margaret Thatcher was a good leader but far from attractive. It's the women in power with sexual appeal that can use that appeal as a weapon. For men this isn't so easily done as there are very few men the average heterosexual women would find physically attractive enough to let the man use his sexual attraction to manipulate her. Women are just different form men when it comes to sexual attraction and women in power are able to use that. Men can use their position of power to get sex but nit use the sex to manipulate a woman they are not romantically involved with.
Imagine every single adult male & female in the US. Ask each of them to rate the person in the other group on a scale of 1-10. You will find men rate women higher than women do men but that’s because women don’t view sex in a non-committed relationship the way men do. Now there are men who no matter how hot the women is will not have sex with her because he needs for their to be that emotional connection but the majority of women are this way where as its not the majority of men. Thus women in power who are sexually attractive can use that as a kind of weapon.
What about Cleopatra or Catherine the Great or Maggie?
Additional good examples but Witmer is the modern woman, the modern woman that feminists tell us would be able to run things without the abuses that men engage in when they are in control.
Yes, these older examples are impressive somehow. Those women weren't beholden to a chorus of gynocrats and chanting thinfellows, openly proclaiming their pride in "women" as such and speaking moronically of "empowerment." Ugh.
There is nothing to add here. It was the BLM riots.
I had questions about containment before them - how do you contain a respiratory virus? - but I distinctly recall seeing a BLM protest in NY where nurses/doctors dressed head to toe in PPE (which was in very short supply) were outside in a dense crowd cheering on the protest.
In a real pandemic, this would have been unthinkable.
Oh yes this too, was huge. You couldn't go to celebrations like a wedding or to say goodbye to a loved one at a funeral surrounded by other loved ones or even attend church but you could riot for BLM. It was a huge insult. Especially the ones who had to say goodbye over FaceTime to a loved one. Absolute insanity. I have lived my life normally since then unvaccinated.
People still say, Sturgis=200k cases based on nothing
Based on Rachel madow says so.
Yes-public rioting is a public health necessity. Also, Fauci went on snapchat and said you couldn't see relatives but that dating app hookups were fine.
This and the announcement that vaccines would be ready by the end of the year, untested. More and more hypocrisy and double standards.
This was the beginning of skepticism for me. Then, in the ensuing months, a series of local and state-level officials all across the country got busted violating their own rules. The final straw for me was a female office-holder (sorry, don't remember the exact person) who sent out a tweet admonishing everyone to obey the mandates and stay home, and then it turned out she had sent the tweet while vacationing in the Bahamas or some such.
I agree with this, but...everything is like this now. Nothing makes sense in any area at this point and it hasn't for 6 years at least. The Regime is insane.
I am also...shocked at how millions turned out to fight the murder of one man, and now at least here in portland oregon handfuls of people are protesting the murder of millions in the US and millions more abroad (there is serious protest abroad yes). But the chasm here...will folks ever wake to this overall, it is a more serious threat than police violence alone. Incomparable.
I've said this before, but part of my philosophical rule-of-thumb is that I immediately become skeptical of a narrative that I'm not allowed to question. Truth does not fear investigation. Asking legitimate questions about lockdowns in general was not met with a good faith effort to discover the truth. It was met with harassment, censorship, doxxing, intimidation, etc. etc. This has gone to apply to everything about the official narrative.
This is a fantastic observation! In my rambling response I did not mention what was maybe the biggest factor in my "discovery" that we were being played. I have an almost pathological distrust of the government. When they impose mandates, particularly when they refuse to offer justification other than, "because we said so," my hackles begin to flare. What baw5xc refers to as a "philosophical rule-of-thumb" is absolute gold.
I agree. My rule of thumb is that whichever side of an issue resorts to censorship and media control is the wrong side.
Censorship is not the bodyguard of the truth, because truth needs no bodyguard. Censorship is the bodyguard of the lie.
^^THIS^^
Excellent advice and I think that what you describe is a quality many here share - we question, and expect to be able to question. Whether the question leads anywhere is a different matter.
Why? What? How do you know that? What happens if you are wrong? Who is paying? Who bears the blame? Where did this come from? How do we get rid of it? and so on, including follow-up questions such as "Which experts? What are their names?"
Very basic questions. Can't have that.
Very true; the late Richard Feynman (one of the 20th century's great physicists) said: "I would rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned"
Well said.
Its a damn shame we can't like posts more than once. On Rumble you can award more then one Rumble point (or whatever they call it) to a video and not just do a thumbs up or down.
And then they revisited the lab leak theory at the exact moment the vaccines first became available. They wanted to plant the seed that the virus might be a FrankenVirus, MAYBE, but not follow that thread to far or too close that it actually lead to an investigation of further reporting. Just enough to let them pretend *this virus is different* without explaining why.
Easy: The U.S. government essentially saying, "We've quickly created mRNA vaccines that have never been tried before to defeat one of the coronaviruses, which are notoriously impossible to vaccinate against. And oh yeah, by the way, we have no idea whatsoever what the long-term effects might be. Is that a problem?"
This was a big one, for sure. How convenient, eh? Just like the conveniently coordinated world-wide talking points that all materialized at the exact same moment? Yeah.
Yes, the lock step media messaging across multiple platforms was a huge tell.
I stopped asking "is it true?" of any announcement or report and instead began to ask "why are they telling us this?"
EXACTLY. What are they pushing, what are they trying to distract me away from, who is going to profit off THIS one...?
following the money we usually come to a few same names, WEF, Gates, Fauci, Daszak
Yes ! that too. How can there be a vaccine in a few months, whereas in 100 years they could not make on? I heard a couple months ago, that for the first in 30 years, they got a more or less working malaria one.
Its not beyond the realm of possibility but it is highly suspect. This is the first mRNA based vaccine so its not beyond the realm of possibility that a radical change in vaccine technology could do something like this but in the case of the covid vaccine I think that is just wishful thinking or an outright lie depending on who you are (government/corp rep versus citizen)
"Oh, and it might be a lab escaped SuperVirus. Or not. We can't say, and no one wants to look too closely, so best to just BE AFRAID!"
As soon as I heard they planned to shut down the economy for 2 weeks, which was very very early on in my country, I knew the entire thing was a lie. I'm an economist. You don't turn the fucking economy on and off. That's not how it works. It's not about money or the GDP (an idiotic metric). Shutting it down means a lot of people are going to suffer and suffer a lot. They were still counting deaths from 2008 a decade later. We'll be counting them for decades more because idiotic and irresponsible public health officers (the same ones saying only they can weigh in on the vaccine cause it saves lives reee) came into my domain. Drug overdoses, suicides, supply chain issues, poverty, income inequality... All up. The drinking issues and depression will cause deaths that will be hard to even quantify. All because doctors thought they knew how to run an economy.
We’ve completely destroyed a generation of kids in the US - mostly the poor and middle class kids in big Dem run urban areas who were already suffering from shit “theories” being pushed on nonstop in our public “schools” on kids as young as 5 year olds about gender and race.
We’ve shielded our young kids as much as possible with academically elite non-woke private Christian school, lots of travel - we just got home from a family trip to Jamaica Friday night - showing them the data, reiterating always read source documents and look at the data yourself. We’ve reminded them often they can leave and feel no guilt because the burden in NC cities (not rural areas though) will be immense for the their generation when they grow up.
We remind them that their parents voted for open schools, school choice for ALL kids, no masks, an open economy, and targeted protection via indoor air purification for the vulnerable. We were loud, gave our time and treasure, and never backed down.
They don’t owe anyone anything and they bear zero responsibility for the abject failure of other parents in our community. We tell them to find somewhere that appreciated children and build a life there if they want - guilt free. They are always welcome to come home, but we will gladly follow them.
I'm Canadian and the inability to leave without being vaccinated is a huge issue for us. Especially since all of the provincial governments seem to be compromised.
i live 2 hours away from the BC border in the us. I miss all my Vancouver friends. I think that you cant leave is insane. that i cant come in. I have heard on twitter that the eastern border is easier to get through but it so feels like nazi germany.
Same. I majored in Econ and I think this was the reason for my gut feel on Day 1 of lockdown. My mother said 'it's just the economy, it will come back and we need to save lives.' I had to bite my tongue since it wasn't worth arguing at the time.
At the time, I thought OK two weeks. Was great to drive on nearly empty streets. Then cases continued to increase. Well OK, NM has cultural issues where families are concerned. Shortly thereafter the governor was praised on national TV for her stellar efforts in copying a much richer, more urban CA. She consulted with the best experts as native Americans travelled together into towns for stables, got ill and as the death rate soared, she was powerless except to lock down and impose more rules that tended to bunch people. Of course, the two weeks have turned into two years. The numbers suggest all the effort did exactly nothing except to trash a poor state further. Oh, it could have been worse say the supporters except for the evidence. In the process family businesses along with prospects died and children of the poor will suffer another lost generation mired in poverty.
All in a futile effort to avoid illness that kills selectively the elderly who could have been protected from exposure at a much lower cost. One day reality will arrive as we look back and I don't think it will be pleasing to some politicians - or so I might wish.
I'm a retired Med lab tech, so my training:
.1. N95 may reduce exposure. Cloth masks a joke. If aerosolized, nothing will stop it.
2. You can't diagnose/differentiate exposure from infection by pcr.
3. Reduction from 3 tests to 2 with pcr rollout (on US) made results even less accurate. Intuitively suspected 40 cycles way too high
4. Fauci admitted to (ig)noble mask lie.
5. I expected protection of vulnerable, who were known by March. Was shocked at lockdowns.
6. Coronaviruses are notoriously mutagenic, which is why no useful vax against them has ever been produced. Cannot possibly develop, manufacture & distribute faster than it can mutate.
7 Asymptomatic spreaders? Seriously?
On the "pseudo-vaxes":
1. My 1st question on reading description was "how long does the artificial mRNA persist?" Never saw any data, only vague assurances.
2. My 2nd question was "What if the spike causes the disease?" Salk Institute answered thay question in their 4/30/21 press announcement.
Lockdowns didn't really impact me since I'm rural. Masks annoying. Not jabbed & they'll have to kill me 1st.
Asymptomatic spreaders is still a head-scratcher, both that they seriously used it, and that anyone, and I mean *anyone* believed it.
I think crazily enough some people liked the idea of being an asymptomatic spreader—made them feel special.
I still know lots of ‘highly educated’ people that believe in asymptomatic spread.
Hi, first my background is important. I am an engineer and work in software. In the early 90's I worked for pharma building clinical trial systems to collect data for analysis and regulatory submission. I started researching vaccine when i had kids early 2000's. My starting assumption was they were safe and effective. I read all the books at the time and followed up all the references.
I was satisfied enough and was going to proceed with full vaccination schedule when i came across an article about mercury and simpsonwood. I didn't believe the article so I downloaded the transcript of the conference and read the whole thing. I was shocked by what i read and then i did a really deep dive into the system of regulation. As the 2000's progressed the topic of vaccination progressively became more and more contentious as the industry was looking to replace the lost revenue from their dwindling pipeline of drugs. The deterioration of the regulatory bodies and peer reviewed science is actually well documented. I invested hundreds and hundreds of hour researching risks of vaccines and risks of disease in developed world. I went to the local medical stacks to pull paper studies to determine the real risks of some of these diseases prior to mass vaccination. Vaccine sales is a business of fear. Like insurance.
I also watched the attempt of the WHO and pharma to create a similar scare with H1N1 flu in 2009. I read all of the science on that and I also knew how bad flu tracking statistics were.
In late 2019 the first rumours of SARS-COV2 registered on my radar and i was half expecting a repeat of 2019. Needless to say shocked when Italy subsequently went into lockdown and panic ensued without anyone looking at the actual death statistics.
I saw the early death numbers from china and the fact that it was all elderly confirmed what I suspected that it was going to be equivalent in severity to a bad flu season. Of course nothing could be certain but i also knew that all the pandemic protocols said don't close things. Michael Levitt and John Ioannidis, Roger Hodkinson all confirmed what I saw in the data early on.
I also recognized panic when I saw it. I paid very close attention to the UK media which was the only reasonable source of skepticism at the time and a poor one at that.
Once i saw Boris reverse strategies i informed my boss that we better prepare to work remotely and make sure we can turn on a dime because we were going to get locked down. He thought I was crazy. 3 weeks later he thought I was a genius (we are in Canada) because we followed the UK policies by about 3-6 weeks.
I knew from the beginning because i already knew the WHO + pharma tried the same in 2009. I am pretty convinced that the medical officers of health 11 years ago were baby boomers or post war children. People who could remember hardship and people who were trained in medical schools prior to pharma funding and the perversion of evidence based medicine through marketing science. Those medical officers of health barely won the war against panic in 2009. Sadly, they all retired in the interim and have been replaced by a new generation who grew up 100 percent under pharma and extreme risk aversion. Somehow the primal fear of bugs has allowed them to sideline emergency planners -- mostly army trained -- who would never have contemplated a strategy of containment.
They have said as much. In Canada there have been only a small handful of skeptical voices who are real experts, namely former emergency planners, and former medical officers of health. They were all ignored. There were only 2 contemporary doctors who spoke out. dr Byram Bridle and Dr Hodkinson. We owe them a lot.
That is my story of being awake the whole time. My real awakening was when i started researching vaccines after having a child 20 years before.
One last addition I forgot. I knew we were in big trouble when the lockdowns began, and especially here in Canada, when the charter of rights and freedoms was summarily discarded -- and continues to be discarded -- by every level of government, while the courts essentially cheered them on.
This shocked me to the core, very very early. I attribute that to my parents. They were both born during the second world war, with one parent subsequently escaping with nothing from the soviets in Hungary but the clothes on their backs. The other parent growing up in the aftermath of Nazi occupation. My family got both sides of totalitarian regimes. From stories from my grandparents, uncles, aunts, parents, I guess I inherited a keen sense of danger from these types of regimes and I recognized it for what it was instantly.
It took me a while to put my finger on it though.
In a way, the fear made people look to government for a solution. In these modern times we have slipped somewhat is collective self reliance. We have allowed ourselves to become more dependant on government. Government, itself, has played a part in that learned helplessness by taking over a lot of what once were community issues that we resolved as neighbors. We of course are very very busy, too busy to help others. As fear permeated society we asked government "do something". They decided that the playbooks of old were not as wise and that mass containment was possible. So we got what we asked for, nevermind how incompetent the mitigations have been. And now politicians never, never admit error. The governments everywhere are trying to spin their way out of the resulting calamity. Incompetence is becoming obvious slowly as public awareness builds.
"primal fear of bugs" - Interesting observation. My boyhood was spent capturing and examining bugs, etc. Walking through fields often eating blackberries in the fields. Lucky me.
Me too. I suppose I should have said pathogens.
I have observed the following. If you walk in a room and see everyone with a mask on, I think most people will immediately feel a sense of danger.
I suspect it's well documented, that people are naturally afraid of someone visibly dying from a disease that they did not understand. There are many historical examples including leprosy etc.
The last evidence in the present day, is that people do not research pathogenic diseases or frankly any diseases themselves, and I would assert it is out of fear of what they might find out. I know people that fear getting diagnosed because they fear the diagnosis. I know others who won't do an ounce of research because they simply want the doctor "expert" to tell them what to do. I believe one of the major failings of the medical system -- which does neither doctors, nor patients any favours -- is that people abdicate their health decisions to someone else out of fear. A lot of people don't want to take ownership of their own health decisions, they simply want a one pill fix... right now.
As for pathogens, I think we still have a primal fear of what we can't see and don't understand. Our current western society certainly has a very awkward relationship with death as this whole pandemic fear has preyed on people severe adversity to any risk of death or frankly the death of their parents.
I can't tell you how many people advocated for elderly (their parents) to be locked away to save them from COVID -- without asking what they wanted. So many died of loneliness. I think there are a handful of fundamental fears at play here.
I agree. fear is fundamental, the source is not being able to take responsibility for the beauty of life. in my mind covid has been a great teacher in this, helping people to dig deep into their truth.
Yeah. Me too. Fireflies and blackberries. grateful
But we also were exposed to all the good microscopic bugs
Your kids are the lucky ones. I hope they survive the "new generation" of medical authorities, because, as you perfectly summed it up: "Vaccine sales is a business of fear. Like insurance." So very true.
Coersion here is very effective. Young adults simply want to get on with life and have a different assessment of risks. I probably would have done the same at that age.
my son didn't care. his idea of risk assessment is very different than mine and he wanted to finish school and graduate. i had to remind my self of the insane things i would put into my body at his age. very different but from a very similar place. self care is hard come by.
George E - not too late to teach one's kids critical thinking skills. The Youth used to have a different idea of "risk", but it is now commercially projected upon them. The Carrot seems to work, sadly.
We used to live our lives because we were Invincible (as all were in their twenties). Te generations grew up with that mindset. Youth is wasted on the youth....Risk is now commercially compromised on the Youth. Facebook, Instagram, TikTok - that's where they get their information. I used to cycle to the library on Saturdays.....and here we are haha.
I agree it's never too late. My kids can think critically, it is a difference of risk assessment and objectives. I can't argue with that. The decisions are well thought out.
Agreed. The entire incestuous pharmco-agency corrupt relationship has always been about money. Vaccines, lol -- look into the history of when vaccines appeared for the diseases and when the diseases actually ended.
Interesting that you feel Canada followed the UK. That seems no longer to be true. For some reason we in the UK are virtually libertarian (sic) on this stuff compared to Canada and mainland Europe. I have no idea why this is, except that Tory backbenchers have some mystical hold over Tory prime ministers, and some of them do have something that resemble principles when it comes to the right wing conception of civil liberties.
Yes it is true, there are a lot more true believers here. For quite a long while we were trailing your policies. That time period has now extended significantly to the order of months. We were however far more heavily influenced by Ferguson et al, than anything from the US. All the early policies were copies of the UK versions.
But then we went total COVIDIAN mainly because there is no diversity of press. You have the Telegraph and Dailymail, we have nothing on the other side. Crickets, so we're stuck.
I figure we'll snap out when the US finishes their political civil war on COVID -- by the mid term elections, and then we'll be forced to wake up. Maybe a totally free UK would influence us too, but I'm not holding my breathe.
Totally speculative but I am actually Scottish and I know how collectivist we are, and that we have gone significantly crazier over all this than the English.
Canada is culturally partly Scottish, and also with the French influence and its statist tendencies, I think you've got the recipe for danger.
Niall Ferguson was also influential on the Trump administration, believe it or not, albeit through Trump's toleration (why?) of arch-pandemicists Fauci & Birx. The simple reason for his influence is, he's not so much an Imperial College guy as a Gates Foundation guy. And that gets us into the central question of why all these governments followed and follow this lockstep transnational technocratic programme....
Be careful there. *Niall* Ferguson is a Scottish historian; *Neil* Ferguson is the git at Imperial College London who ran the early modeling that freaked everybody out about projected Covid deaths. Neil Ferguson apparently has a history of advising governments with really bad models.
I just finished Niall Ferguson's book Doom about various catastrophes throughout history, on the background of our current pandemic. Unfortunately it was published in the fall of 2020, before the vaccines were released – I hope he updates it soon.
And the fact that Neil Ferguson has a forecasting track record almost completely consisting of monumental errors makes it absolutely astonishing that anybody pays any attention to him.
Good catch.
Ha. Good spot.
Yes, i do recognize the impact of the ferguson fauci birx triangle. It is with deep irony that the US is ultimately likely to have created this mess but is also the most resilient against it.
I sympathize for the scots and the irish who went bonkers like us. I pity our children more though. We are among the worst offenders of school closures worldwide. Ontario's utter collapse of the public school system is a tragedy beyond comprehension. It could be a decade to restore it.
I get your point, but it's generous to call the UK libertarian when 1) we introduced covid passes for nightlife and large events last month and barely anyone batted an eyelid (in fact all the football clubs and many arts & culture venues have been enforcing them since September); 2) things have been rather restrictive in the devolved nations; 3) Parliament approved mandates for care home and healthcare staff; and 4) we were in continuous lockdown for the better part of a year and had some of the harshest laws against household mixing.
Also, mainland Europe is varied. My family in Madrid has been living very normally (with the exception of masks) since July 2020, when regional president Isabel Ayuso chose to reopen nearly everything following the end of the national lockdown. I think we have to be careful not to conflate actions in France, Italy, Austria, Germany and Holland with the entirety of Europe.
The UK is far from Libertarian for sure. They are a country of sheep for the most part almost as scared as the Scots.
And that's as nice a demonstration of the fake concept of a European Union 'nation' as I've ever seen; well said!
Uk libertarian, please. you may have a population of libertarians, but you also have a bunch of scared nanny-loving psychopaths. My daughter lives there, and her in-laws are scared to death and will do anything the government tells them to do, and they do their best version of “Karen” to make sure everyone else falls in line.
Very well said! Good point about the age of the people currently in charge of public health versus 2009.
I'm now 68; when I was a kid we all had measles and chickenpox, and nobody was worried about dying. I lived in Wyoming in 2009 during the swine flu "scare". It was on our radar but nobody was worried about it, despite the fact that two people I know from my small town had to get life-flighted to Salt Lake City; one was in a coma for months.
H1N1 was actually a bit novel in that it didn't kill a lot of people, but it killed people that normally don't die from flu -- the working class. Last I read, it looked like a small number of cases of ADE, from prior exposure to some other flu (or vaccine) which created immune complexes and cytokine storms, ARDS and death.
The Nature article is fascinating in that they looked at people who had died in earlier "pandemic" flus and confirmed similar findings.
Canadian scientists also ran 4 different studies that all confirmed that prior vaccination with flu vaccine increased susceptibility to acquiring H1N1 infection -- fortunately without serious outcomes since for most people the flu was actually very very mild -- irony.
That was the first real proof in my mind that mass vaccination is a foolish strategy. The real danger of a pandemic isn't Ebola with measles transmission. I actually think that is impossible in nature. The real danger is a slightly worse flu that moves fast that knocks everyone out of commission at the same time. That is how systems collapse. What is the best defense against a fast moving non deadly disease? Immune DIVERSITY, not homogeneity. Mass vaccination creates a uniform immune landscape which any opportunistic escape variant will quickly saturate completely and knock out everyone at the same time. Hence the stress on the HC system that is staffed conveniently by everyone with useless antibodies against a b-1 vs Omicron. Second proof of the extreme foolishness of mass vaccinating against seasonal virus'.
CBC radio did a program years ago where they interviewed indigenous survivors of the spanish flu. Like most diseases it disproportionally devastated indigenous communities. The lady who was interviewed said the only reason she survived was because her very elderly grandmother didn't get sick and kept feeding and watering her family. All they needed was basic care to survive, but if everyone was sick there was no one left to get water or food.
We are such fools.
80% of the dead from H1N1 were younger than 60 years old. Had they reported deaths from or with H1N1 the way they wanted to (like the do from or with COVID-19), the estimates are there were 20 times more deaths than recorded. As mentioned in these comments. Public health had been trying to scare and increase vaccine penetration since 2003 or 2004. Wolfgang Wodarg and some of his coalition of doctors have an excellent job of calling these psychopaths out from day one.
Wow! My first hospitalization was after I received the swine flu vaccination.
Well, looking back on it now, at my friend that was in a coma for months and almost died, I can't help wondering if maybe she was having a reaction to the flu vaccine. Unfortunately I can't remember if she actually was sick with flu before they had to fly her away. I know for a fact that she had been vaccinated.
I had not realized it until I read Michael Lewis' book The Premonition - A Pandemic Story that under George W, the white house drafted a pandemic plan. One if its main authors reviewed data from the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic and determined that the existing data showing lockdowns did not work had misinterpreted the data and that the data showed that the problem was that lockdowns had occurred too late. It sure seems as if this may have been the basis for the flatten the curve lockdowns which of course, were too late to accomplish anything. Interestingly enough, one of the authors had wanted hospitals to test patients who arrived at the ER with pneumonia for covid in an attempt to determine the spread of the disease but the CDC refused to approve the testing. As China has illustrated, if done soon enough, one can contain the virus for some time, but unless the rest of world follows your same plan with no modifications, you will only delay the inevitable. Might Omicron actually save China from itself?
I am not convinced of that since the pandemic plans that were formed were driven by SARS during that timeline. I don't doubt one person argued that, but there isn't even any good data to show that the spanish flu was actually one single pathogen. I have seen analysis showing a lot of people died of pneumonia from wearing masks.
Members of the health complex during Bush also wanted to restart vaccinating against smallpox as they were worried about it being used as a bioweapon. That was also shot down by one of the original members of the eradication team who stated he though smallpox would have ultimately disappeared without the vaccine. Quarantine and isolation was the main tool used there. That vaccine caused to much damage to justify. So there were a lot of crazy ideas brought forth during the Bush era.
As far as I know from reading the WHO documentation and the Canadian pandemic plans, that the whole premise -- based on a holistic view -- was to keep society functioning as close to normal as possible. Masks were known to be useless.
This lockdown gained popularity from the viral nature of The Hammer and the Dance paper. We don't really know how that rose to prominence but we do know that China fomented fear in Italy -- the location of the first lockdown -- with their state controlled media trolls. If you're read any of TheEthicalSkeptic's papers, he's providing compelling evidence that the virus was circulating in Asia already in 2018/2019 based on a variety of evidence included excess deaths among elderly in those nations during that time. It would also explain prior immunity in those regions.
There are a lot of dots we haven't connected yet, but I no longer buy the argument that there was no planning involved. I can't speak to intent, but there was some dirty business going on somewhere. Omicron itself is a mystery. It almost certainly came from a lab, the question is why.
I 100% agree that the virus was already killing people (mostly the old and sick) back in 2018. Stanford Docs thought it was killing the elderly in spring 2019. Random deaths of elderly found in their homes in the Bay Area were the reason they thought it was already in San Francisco Bay Area. It also explains why the Bay Area did so well compared to the rest of the US and LA. WUHAN and SF have a massive number of daily visitors every single day, more so than anywhere else in the US.
I got pretty pretty sick for a couple days in April 2018. Went down to urgent care and I tested negative for influenza. I gotta wonder...
Me too in September 2019, all the symptoms that I later read as classic Covid-19. Two weeks of discomfit; but no hospitalisation and my immune system eventually coped OK. I happened to be living at the time in a small town with reasonable numbers of Chinese tourists coming in for stays, bus loads of them, at times crowding the local solitary supermarket. Then I read last year of some indications that what came to be labelled as SARS-CoV-2 may have been evident in China as early as July/August 2019. So possibly this thing has been around a bit longer than the official narrative would indicate.
Omicron is indeed a bit unexpected. It's almost as if it has been engineered as a true traditional vaccine (unlike the mRNA technology) to blunt SARS-CoV-2 and bring things to a close. Maybe that's a bit far out, but in its mildness of symptoms it has all the hallmarks of the old style immunising vaccine.
Their plan also included the rapid closure of all schools which we have since observed would have made little or no difference. By no means would I praise the Bush Administration; I was just surprised to see that the White House drafted a plan back during his time.
I have questioned the Wuhan leak for one reason and I have yet to see a good counterargument. Prior to Wuhan being placed in lockdown, the first cases had already been observed in Italy, the USA, Iran, and several countries in Asia. Although Wuhan is a large Chinese city, it is by no means an international air hub. So the majority of those Chinese who supposedly carried the virus to other countries from Wuhan would have to had traveled via other major cities in China. Yet none of those cities had huge outbreaks nor were locked down nearly as tightly as Wuhan. Robert Unz likes to focus on Iran as being a possible target of a US virus leak, I have not seen any evidence to confirm that, but it is odd that Iran would have been one of the first countries hit particularly hard, given that it is not a tourist beckon for the Chinese, unlike the other countries where the virus was first observed. Please share any additional information you might have.
Although this guy can be hard to read due to his sometimes cryptic writing, he brings a lot of evidence to bear to support his hypothesis in this paper.
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/11/15/chinas-ccp-concealed-sars-cov-2-presence-in-china-as-far-back-as-march-2018/
They say it is very modified - beyond a natural design. Omicron diverted early in the plague days, and weirdly somehow landed here in time to save us. Doesn't make sense unless it has to make sense. If we work backwards, I'm ok. You're so so.
Every rose has its thorn....might Omicron be the thorn?
China may have locked down Wuhan but they kept their airports open and sent the virus worldwide. They also knew how to treat the disease, something they still hadn't completely shared with the west.
I curious about your comment with respect to knowing how to treat the disease. Could you elaborate? I know China relies much more on homeopathic treatments rather than patented medicines and I wonder if that is not one of the reasons why their treatments might not have been used in the West.
As I mentioned in another comment, the first reported cases outside of China occurred before Wuhan shut down, so having airports open after Wuhan locked, was of little significance.
Doctor McCullough talks about treatments that he believes the Chinese used and developed. For example, Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, etc. Most importantly, you have to ask yourself why we did not try and develop treatments. Instead, rogue doctors were the only ones, and they were risking their medical licenses.
I'm not sure you are correct about your comment regarding first known cases outside of Wuhan. Wuhan locked down on January 23rd. I'm not aware of anywhere in the world that on the 23rd of January already had a positive SARS-CoV-2 test.
The west seemed content to implement a policy of containment until a vaccine becomes available. Early treatments seemed much less important and any small trial that showed negative results doomed that particular treatment immediately. It was as if they had completely forgotten about the HIV cocktail. Only in combination do those drugs work - had they used the same philosophy now used for covid, they would have written off every drug within the cocktail.
As for cases outside of Wuhan prior to Jan 23rd, I searched a bit and found these:
A Washington state resident becomes the first person in the United States with a confirmed case of the 2019 novel coronavirus, having returned from Wuhan on January 15, thanks to overnight polymerase chain reaction testing.
13 January 2020 - Officials confirm a case of COVID-19 in Thailand, the first recorded case outside of China.
On 24 January, France has officially notified to the WHO Regional Office for Europe of 3 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV. Two patients were detected in Paris and one in Bordeaux. All 3 had travelled from Wuhan, China and are now hospitalized in France.
I would have to assume that there were quite a few others, it is very likely that they would have simply been recorded as pneumonia patients, especially in smaller city hospitals.
None of these cases were confirmed COVID-19 until after January 23rd. They were established in retrospect not in real time.
I would not believe anything the Chinese said about Coronavirus. There is evidence that indicates they knew about this already in 2018. I would assume everything from them was propaganda.
I was not aware that China used a lot of homeopathy. They do have Traditional Chinese medicine which is not at all like homeopathy. I read a TCM report early spring 2020 on how to treat COVID-19 with TCM medicines.
It is also likely they had prior immunity which is why their case counts are so low across all of that region of the world.
You might find this paper an interesting read: https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/11/15/chinas-ccp-concealed-sars-cov-2-presence-in-china-as-far-back-as-march-2018/
Fascinating. Thank you.
1. "natural immunity does not work"
2. "HCQ/zinc does not work and must not be used"
3. "Ivermectin does not work and must not be used"
Also... for anyone who was inclined to do the research, the "possible" side effects of the mRNA injections was posted, either on the CDC or FDA website, in early 2020. They included ALL of the side effects we now know are true. I assume that page has now been deleted.
WHY IS IT A SCAM? As you rightly mention, Shibumi, the vilification of the medical treatments you mention, coupled with media refusing to debate fairly anywhere or with anyone. The weird vilification of doctors, calling them misinformation spreaders. I felt that was very immature and unprofessional and UNUSUAL. It was the UNUSUAL aspect of it that aroused my suspicions, it was too blatantly defensive? Also I was once involved in a cult and cults typically create cultic types of environment of being closed to the opinion and dissent of others and only their information is the truth. But look we the dissenters were right and they the merchants of the earth are very worried, for their time is short and the useless eaters are gaining ground. Folks these are principalities in high spiritual places on a bounty hunt for our souls, the world say it is the great reset, genocide, demicide, yes it is, but it is a spiritual quest for our souls.
Louisa Watts you are spot on! As a daily reader of Dr. Mercola for 10+ years, I was surprised initially to see his warnings, and a new slew of "Trumpian" commenters, who raged about "personal freedom". But the total censorship of anything other than the jab was definitely a paradigm shift for me. All roads led to the jab. And still do.
Yes they ran into defend their tuck shop before their next delivery came. They aroused suspicion. You would have thought with their spin doctors to hand, they could have executed a more pristine performance.
Diamond Princess.
Exactly. Perfect test case. Everything you needed to know about IFR, age stratification, natural immunity right there.
Yup, that was it for me as well. They knew then it mostly targeted the very elderly and already sick. IFR was like a bad flu for those elderly. It was the perfect test case and they absolutely blew it.
Doubt they blew it. They must have known but used the most exaggerated modeling scenario from a modeler that had been repeatedly gravely wrong in the past.
To think, that was early February 2020, before the world shut down, and they had all the info they needed to go forward.. Try to protect the elderly, the rest of you will make it through this.
For me it was four factors.
1. I was an early mask advocate (Apr/May 2020) then I was made aware (June 2020) of the WHO document containing the meta analysis of the mask rct's for influenza. I started investigating masking in general which led me to dismiss their claims that masks were effective. I also learned a new term for "and then a miracle occurred" => mechanistic plausibility.
2. I started noticing that the lock down severity indices were not correlated with mortality rates.
3. The whole debate surrounding how Sweden was managing their response convinced me that we were not applying a risk-benefit analysis to much - if any - of the PH sanctioned "mitigations".
4. Denial of natural immunity.
For me all of these factors came into focus during mid/late Summer 2020. I learned quite a bit along the way as I am a math/software specialist.
here is the motherlode of mask RCTs which show lack of efficacy https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aWstK-LeTakLGG5C4zQpRqLmFw2c_xV84UDJZCpkBnE/edit
With the caveat that the human mind is great at constructing a coherent story that fits its beliefs and memory, here is my submission. My first indication that something rotten was afoot was the Diamond Princess data. Looking at that experience, and that data, it did not make sense to react the way we did. Now, in full disclosure, it took me months and months to figure out that the COVID Dumpster Fire™ was never about data.
Maybe that was my second clue. I noticed many writers, myself included, providing analysis and data that seemed to run counter to the policy approaches being taken. Yet, this was to no avail! As an engineer, I had (have) an almost religious belief in the power of data. It still shocks me that the data is not as useful as I would have thought (hoped) it would be. As one Twitter poster wryly observed, "Looks like only 6 of us paid attention in stats 101."
My third clue was when the governor of my state--the recently-deposed Emperor Cuomo--invited a selection of, basically, rich guys, many of whom were not disease experts, including Bill Gates, to devise a way to "safely open the state back up." My spidey-sense buzzed with a sharp, "What the absolute...?" Why would McKinsey be the appropriate source for such information? Various, shall we say, questionable recommendations, like bars could be open, but could not play the television, ensued. (No, I am not kidding.) One does not need to be an epidemiologist or virologist or statistician to see that recommendation as barking lunacy.
Around the same time, people I followed on Twitter began to post pictures of the W.H.O. web pages that ostensibly informed appropriate behavior regarding respiratory viruses. For convenience, these recommendations were generally in the form of matrices. These matrices contained information such as, "there is no data showing that masks work" or "there is no data showing that sanitizing surfaces works," yet those approaches were being applied wholesale and often mandated. On that same list of W.H.O. resources, they had a category called "things to never do in response to a respiratory virus outbreak." Several policies from that list were also being instituted! During this timeframe, I enjoyed bouts of raucous laughter interspersed with extreme anger.
The final clue arrived when I attempted to develop a "nomological network of cumulative evidence" about masking. This approach was outlined in a book, written by an evolutionary behavioral scientist, that I had just finished reading. That led me to consult the CDC website, since the most conservative approach is to consult the primary source being cited by the policy people, particularly if you disagree with the policy. To my surprise, the references--most of which I downloaded and read--did not provide legitimate, scientific, RCT-derived, supportive data for the policy recommendations and/or mandates. (They still do not.) I am still struggling with the "stickiness" of masks as an approach that reasonably intelligent people use voluntarily.
It took me months to notice things like hospital reimbursement policy or technical performance data of the mRNA treatments or the (now obvious) vilification of existing treatments and remedies to justify the Emergency Use Authorization for the mRNA treatments. By that point, I realized we were being fed a line of bovine feces, intravenously. We were all riding the Crazy Train, and the conductors were using a map unrelated to reality or science. However, Pfizer was making a boatload of money! The same is true of the people who initially posited that PCR testing was a "gold standard" but that was, again, too nuanced for me to notice initially.
My current state-of-mind is realization that we are in the midst of a shared group psychosis, that has taken on the timbre of a religious experience, on both sides. I have not the faintest clue how or when it ends, but I have given up thinking I have any clue on that point. (Feel free to cite me, should you use this posting, as "The Wiltster" although I am fine with using my actual name, should that be necessary.)
"an almost religious belief in the power of data"
Always keeping in mind the GIGO principle.
"My current state-of-mind is realization that we are in the midst of a shared group psychosis, that has taken on the timbre of a religious experience, on both sides."
Brilliant, beautifully said, thank you!
except one side chose tyranny and the other chooses liberty...
Wow. So kind. Thank you!
When I heard saw how officials reacted to Trump mentioning hydroxychloroquine, I then tracked down the original chinese study that showed they gave fatal doses to people who were nearly dead already.
And when the press didn't report on the fatal doses being purposefully given to end-stage people, and I saw HCQ had been used safely for decades, I knew it was a sham.
Odd how they would react to this drug. I understand they may hate Trump and since he brought it up, I could see them be skeptical but wouldn't you at least hope for it to work so the pandemic can end?
One would hope... but there are a LOT of agendas out there that are taking advantage of (or planning on) this. China was already struggling under Trump's tariff's and more were coming, Dems wanted him out, Klaus Schwab has the world to subjugate, and all this before lunch time!
BP got an EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for the jabs. They could only get the EUA if there were no existing and reasonable treatments. Therefore, they had to deny any and all possible treatments. I just heard someone mention that the EUA is now up for renewal, so if all this is true, it could partly explain all the hysteria surrounding Omicron.
I've heard this before but both remdesivir and monoclonal antibodies are considered treatments so I don't know if this is true. Maybe they just don't meet the specific threshold for reasonable treatments?
I was a senior in American high school at the time, having been forced out of in-person school for give or take three months. Lucky as I was, my school still held regular classes online with competent instructors, and I could finish up the year's work without much hassle. Most everyone I knew personally took the transition decently well, as did my left-leaning parents, both working from home in guest-bedrooms-turned-offices, as my sister soldiered on with her university course work in - ironically - Public Health. My teachers were decidedly optimistic about the future, having lived through SARS-1, and (albeit heavily gutted) AP exams came and went as pretty much everyone expected them to. The general attitude of myself, and most everyone I knew, was that the feds knew what they were doing, and would lead us out of this mess before Summer. The stretch from 2 weeks to 2 months, then three, was something of mild concern, but nothing to agonize about in the long run. After all, the government knew best.
Three days before my virtual graduation, I watched Minneapolis burn live on YouTube.
I expected outrage, at the idea that these people would so brazenly break the lockdown we* (naive, I know) worked so hard to slow the spread for. At the very least, that major party leaders would come together and condemn if not the nature of mass street protests in a pandemic, then at least the rioting and looting itself. Instead, every major corporate outlet left of Fox News wrote waxing puff-pieces about an open letter, signed by over a thousand 'health professionals', calling for the continuation of these 'protests for racial justice' - despite what I'd been told was the most omnipresent, dangerous threat to my health since the Spanish Flu. Never mind the protestors against Whitmer in Michigan, whose policies even my parents considered excessive, were dismissed as nothing more than evil, science-denying trump supporters and white supremacists, and fosters of a super-spreader event of the highest order. All the while, the destruction and chaos I saw all, straight from the amateur streamers on the ground, was explained away as simply my lying eyes - the protests were 'fiery but mostly peaceful', or so the story went.
What little faith I had left crumbled to pieces in the coming weeks, as more and more riots broke out across America, with official responses ranging from muteness to outright support. Suddenly, the all-encompassing focus on Corona was thrown by the wayside, and as if by an invisible hand, the 'national conversation' had shifted away from a pandemic. You couldn't just ignore a pandemic, picking and choosing which mass gatherings in the street were 'safe', right? But social justice trumped social distance, and pick and choose they did.
It was perhaps at that time I realized that if the media could so brazenly lie about the protests, it followed that they were capable of lying about everything else, too. Yandex (Google being worse than useless) led me to Berenson, and it took a grand total of one day thereafter for the entire masquerade to come crashing down, taking a worldview of 18 long years with it.
As a teacher, you get an “A” on your report. Stunning clarity, critical thinking skills, and solid conclusions. Hug and thank your parents and teachers for the gift of a great education that you received. Congratulations.
This is a very well written essay. You are one smart, not to mention astute person.
A+
Maybe there is hope for the next generation…
How old are you? This is brilliant. Well done.
I'm 66, and took the Moderna vaccine (2 doses) last Jan/Feb based on the advice of my doctor. I hesitated after listening to several people recommend against it, but in the end I trusted my doctor. (BTW - I've never taken the flu shot - I had no trouble refusing that one!) Wish I'd done the same for the Moderna shot, but what's done is done. It will be a very long time, if ever, before I trust most doctors and the government again. Sad to admit that I was a very naive 66 year old! I have many other reasons and many have already been mentioned - here's my partial list.
1. When "2 weeks to slow-the-spread to prevent hospital overcrowding" was extended.
2. When alternative therapies/solutions were ridiculed and called misinformation. (Ex. Drs. Sabine Gold, Peter McCollough, Pierre Kory and many others).
3. When the government/Fauci and msm didn't mention or encourage Americans to take steps to improve their immune systems by losing weight, and supplementing with zinc, Vit D, etc.).
4. When vaccines were recommended for all ages - yet 99.9+% survive the illness.
5. Illegal immigrants crossing the Texas border are not required to take the shots.
6. When the Indian province (Udder Pradesh??) and Mexico City basically killed Covid after distributing Home Kits (including Ivermectin) to their citizens.
7. Substack subscriptions - eugyppius and el gato malo have been most helpful to me. While much of the content and the comments are way beyond my ability to understand, I have learned so much and am very thankful.
8. Recently in North Texas white Texans have been denied monoclonal antibodies.
9. Two-hour episode with Mike Yeardon on Reiner Fuellmichs' Corona Investigative Committee's Jan. 7th podcast.
I knew by April 2020 that society was going insane. I'm not a genius. I asked obvious questions and saw that nobody in the mainstream was attempting to answer those obvious questions.
1. The medical literature from the previous decades said containment was a sham after a disease of this nature became widespread.
2. They weren't talking about the previous medical literature.
3. They didn't even attempt to provide reasons for disregarding previous norms.
4. They NEVER spoke of waves 2, 3, 4, etc. If lockdown stalls wave 1, why does that stop wave 2? It seemed like an obvious question that nobody cared to address. For months they acted as if COVID was going to be one wave then it's done.
5. COVID went from an modeled ~5% fatality rate to an actual ~0.15% very quickly. Nobody acknowledged it and the central planners changed none of their plans. It was obvious very early we weren't using data to inform our course of action.
One simple thing - there was a complete blocking of physician innovation on early treatment. I've never seen this before. Physicians normally collaborate to treat difficult or unusual illnesses. Never seen them lose licenses or be fired for doing so.
Oh yes I remember that well
I knew something awful would happen to bring chaos to the 2020 Election so I was just waiting for it. When the media started censoring famous and well-respected doctors right away in February/March 2020, like Risch and Ioannidis, I knew what it was. Nothing ever made sense to me, after the first month.
Stanford scientist John Ioannidis finds himself under attack for questioning the prevailing wisdom about lockdowns. - April 2020
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-bearer-of-good-coronavirus-news-11587746176